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May 13, 2014 4:32 PM
thavoice;1615921 wrote:So everyone has seen the supposed leaked Patriots scouting report on Johnny Manziel by now. Apparently, he's spoiled, walks away from coaches, gets allowance from Gramps (still), believes in partiality when it comes to knowing the playbook and has some jealous teammates. Wonder if it said "still 200 times better than Brandon Weeden" on there.


Interesting. I find the playbook think interesting, and believable to a point. He makes so many plays with his feet that I wouldnt doubt he didnt have a full grasp of the playbook of maybe what every receiver is doing on each play. Maybe he knew what 1 and 2 were doing and then would just say fuck it and scramble it around.

That dog wont hunt in the NFL where you have to know what all 4/5 receivers are doing and anticipate those throws.
He'll be out of the league in 3 years. I said the same about Weeden and the same about Quinn.
May 13, 2014 4:32pm
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May 13, 2014 4:36 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1615930 wrote:ESPN's Dan Graziano reports the NFL is expected to revamp its marijuana policy in the league's new drug agreement, instituting a higher threshold for positive tests and lessening the penalties.
Does that apply to current players who tested positive lol?
May 13, 2014 4:36pm
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May 13, 2014 4:38 PM
like_that;1615933 wrote:Does that apply to current players who tested positive lol?
It's unclear how much the penalties will be lessened, but at the very least, it means players will no longer be subject to a four-game ban for a first-time offense. Per Graziano, only haggling over the arbitration process is delaying the new drug agreement. The move comes too late for Josh Gordon, but it appears marijuana will no longer be treated as a more serious offense than issues like drunk driving and assault.
May 13, 2014 4:38pm
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May 13, 2014 4:42 PM
and aint no way the bengals would trade him inside the division though
like_that;1615927 wrote:There is also some horse shit rumor on twitter that Aj green wants to request a trade.
May 13, 2014 4:42pm
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May 13, 2014 4:42 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1615936 wrote:It's unclear how much the penalties will be lessened, but at the very least, it means players will no longer be subject to a four-game ban for a first-time offense. Per Graziano, only haggling over the arbitration process is delaying the new drug agreement. The move comes too late for Josh Gordon, but it appears marijuana will no longer be treated as a more serious offense than issues like drunk driving and assault.
They might apply it to Josh Gordon as well, but that just seems too logical.
May 13, 2014 4:42pm
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May 13, 2014 4:47 PM
like_that;1615939 wrote:They might apply it to Josh Gordon as well, but that just seems too logical.
Doubtful. Especially for a repeat offender.
May 13, 2014 4:47pm
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May 13, 2014 5:17 PM
Looks like Browns are banning National Media from the Browns Rookie camp. Good move if you ask me, definitely don't need another Tebow circus.
May 13, 2014 5:17pm
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May 13, 2014 5:22 PM
thavoice;1615941 wrote:Doubtful. Especially for a repeat offender.
First time with weed. If they cut your scumbag coach a lot of slack then Gordon deserves it too.
May 13, 2014 5:22pm
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May 13, 2014 9:18 PM
HighRoller74;1615947 wrote:Looks like Browns are banning National Media from the Browns Rookie camp. Good move if you ask me, definitely don't need another Tebow circus.
That's bologna. And Haslam is an idiot in proclaiming Hoyer as the starter. Based on what exactly? 2 games? Why is Hoyer annointed the starter? What did he, as an undrafted player do to "win" the starting job? What happened to open competition?

In the same breath he speaks of Gordon as " a young person" making young person mistakes. Haslam needs to get his frickin priorities straight. Criticizing Manziel for being Manziel...but cutting Gordon slack for testing drug positive.
May 13, 2014 9:18pm
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May 13, 2014 10:09 PM
In all seriousness, I see Manziel starting week 1. Kyle Shannon adapted his offense to fit RGIII and I see him doing the same thing for Manziel and I see JFF having smiliar success. I mean I support Hoyer all the way and yes I love the way the offense ran the two weeks he played, But JFF will beat him out. JMHO
May 13, 2014 10:09pm
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May 13, 2014 10:13 PM
like_that;1615949 wrote:First time with weed. If they cut your scumbag coach a lot of slack then Gordon deserves it too.
What was the first for? Sizzurp?

5 total failed tests lol

I think they alter the policy and he ends up sitting 3-4 games.
May 13, 2014 10:13pm
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May 13, 2014 10:29 PM
shook_17;1616019 wrote:In all seriousness, I see Manziel starting week 1. Kyle Shannon adapted his offense to fit RGIII and I see him doing the same thing for Manziel and I see JFF having smiliar success. I mean I support Hoyer all the way and yes I love the way the offense ran the two weeks he played, But JFF will beat him out. JMHO
RGIII was a much more polished passer than Manziel. RGIII used his scrambling ability as a secondary weapon, it's Manziel's primary weapon. It will be interesting to see what ends up happening, but I think Hoyer starts unless he has a setback with injury.
May 13, 2014 10:29pm
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May 14, 2014 12:11 AM
shook_17;1616019 wrote:In all seriousness, I see Manziel starting week 1. Kyle Shannon adapted his offense to fit RGIII and I see him doing the same thing for Manziel and I see JFF having smiliar success. I mean I support Hoyer all the way and yes I love the way the offense ran the two weeks he played, But JFF will beat him out. JMHO
I agree, he will beat him out.
May 14, 2014 12:11am
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May 14, 2014 1:01 AM
Thank god the failskins prove how idiotic they are. He's not worth a 7th rounder. Bum in college, bum in the pros.
like_that;1615939 wrote:They might apply it to Josh Gordon as well, but that just seems too logical.
You forgot Breowns, we'll be fucked.
May 14, 2014 1:01am
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May 14, 2014 8:17 AM
HitsRus;1616072 wrote:I would not have hated that deal.
I would have. I am not impressed by him at all.
May 14, 2014 8:17am
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May 14, 2014 9:17 AM
1. I am glad the Redskins turned down that deal.
2. I am even more glad the Browns didn't up it to a 2nd rounder as was suggested. I would have probably thrown something at the wall if we gave up a 2nd rounder for Cousins.
May 14, 2014 9:17am
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May 14, 2014 10:08 AM
like_that;1615949 wrote:First time with weed. If they cut your scumbag coach a lot of slack then Gordon deserves it too.

Yeah.
I know. He shoulda got something out of it.

I do think though that it was an accident. He was watching the return on the big screen and was too close. I know most dont believe, still does not mean he did not deserve some punishment though.
May 14, 2014 10:08am
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May 14, 2014 10:45 AM
Footwedge;1616004 wrote:What happened to open competition?
It's unsurprising that along with spelling and mathematics, you also struggle with reading comprehension:


Part of Haslem's quote was: "They’ll compete. If Johnny wins the job, fine. If not, Brian will be the quarterback."

from https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/browns-owner-says-johnny-manziel-is-a-backup-quarterback-right-now-150831725.html


The open competition you seek was explicitly mentioned but it went way over your head (SHOCKER)
May 14, 2014 10:45am
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May 14, 2014 11:27 AM
Why did the Cleveland Clowns owner disrespect johnny football? What a freaking joke of an organization smh
May 14, 2014 11:27am
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May 14, 2014 12:02 PM
steubbigred;1616146 wrote:Why did the Cleveland Clowns owner disrespect johnny football? What a freaking joke of an organization smh
How ironic, the Steubenville football fan calling the Browns a joke of an organization...
May 14, 2014 12:02pm
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May 14, 2014 12:05 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1616163 wrote:How ironic, the Steubenville football fan calling the Browns a joke of an organization...
He's down with organizations that support rape.
May 14, 2014 12:05pm
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May 14, 2014 12:12 PM
like_that;1616164 wrote:He's down with organizations that support rape.
So he likes the Steelers?
May 14, 2014 12:12pm
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May 14, 2014 12:17 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1616166 wrote:So he likes the Steelers?
Yes, 95% of the inbreds in that area grasp onto any bandwagon they can find.
May 14, 2014 12:17pm