I don't see myself dying for our country in our current condition. I can't split the government from our country.WebFire;1495373 wrote:Correct order should be:
1. Children
2. Country
Notice religion is not on the list.
What about dying for your country defending FROM your government?ernest_t_bass;1495375 wrote:I don't see myself dying for our country in our current condition. I can't split the government from our country.
Just joining the military to do whatever the President says is not, in this case, dying for your country. But, if we were being attacked then I think many would defend. Does that change your thinking?ernest_t_bass;1495375 wrote:I don't see myself dying for our country in our current condition. I can't split the government from our country.
I'll die for my freedom. I'll die for my countrymen.justincredible;1495385 wrote:What about dying for your country defending FROM your government?
/Conspiracy theory'd
See above. I'll die for my countrymen, but at this point, I will not die for the America that America has become.WebFire;1495386 wrote:Just joining the military to do whatever the President says is not, in this case, dying for your country. But, if we were being attacked then I think many would defend. Does that change your thinking?
So, if another country attacked us on our soil right now, and we needed to fight alongside our military to defend, would you do it? Your answer isn't clear.ernest_t_bass;1495391 wrote:See above. I'll die for my countrymen, but at this point, I will not die for the America that America has become.
Yeah, I agree with this. No way in hell I'm joining the military to police the world and potentially die defending special interests. I would, however, die to defend my countrymen in the event of an attack on our soil. And I would die to defend my freedom against a tyrannical government. I consider these to be "dying for your country."WebFire;1495386 wrote:Just joining the military to do whatever the President says is not, in this case, dying for your country. But, if we were being attacked then I think many would defend. Does that change your thinking?
Yes, I would fight alongside our military. I would not defend one portion of our government, however. I'd surrender them to the enemy!WebFire;1495392 wrote:So, if another country attacked us on our soil right now, and we needed to fight alongside our military to defend, would you do it? Your answer isn't clear.
Right on.ernest_t_bass;1495395 wrote:Yes, I would fight alongside our military. I would not defend one portion of our government, however. I'd surrender them to the enemy!
Why do you hate poor people and roads?ernest_t_bass;1495395 wrote:I would not defend one portion of our government, however. I'd surrender them to the enemy!
Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.justincredible;1495399 wrote:Why do you hate poor people and roads?
KNEEL BEFORE GUD!!!!TedSheckler;1495369 wrote:Who is Gud?
They ARE dying for a worthless govt., though. We need to get the f*ck out of there. We got ring leaders in Sadam and Osama. Bring 'em home.Tiernan;1495425 wrote:Today in Afghanistan most likely a couple of Americans died. Are any of you that making this distinction btwn Govt and Country going to tell those heroes families that they died supporting a worthless Govt instead of dying for their Country?
...yeah I didn't think so either assholes.
Of course we wouldn't. Doesn't mean that isn't true.Tiernan;1495425 wrote:Today in Afghanistan most likely a couple of Americans died. Are any of you that making this distinction btwn Govt and Country going to tell those heroes families that they died supporting a worthless Govt instead of dying for their Country?
...yeah I didn't think so either assholes.
You think those guys don't know or feel when their supposed countrymen are more or less saying "hey man I support you but what you are doing is a waste."?WebFire;1495429 wrote:Of course we wouldn't. Doesn't mean that isn't true.
Sure they can. But hell, a lot of the soldiers don't support why they are there.Tiernan;1495437 wrote:You think those guys don't know or feel when their supposed countrymen are more or less saying "hey man I support you but what you are doing is a waste."?
When they ALL finally do get home then it's time to re-examine how they got there and what they did while they were there. Until then they are America and that includes everything about America...even the Govt.
