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Aug 24, 2013 7:25 PM
Con_Alma;1490817 wrote:I disagree and I appreciate CC.

Soccer and football both can benefit the right kid who wrestles.
Absolutely correct! :thumbup:
Aug 24, 2013 7:25pm
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Aug 25, 2013 10:07 AM
Do many soccer athletes do anything else?
Aug 25, 2013 10:07am
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Shoot and Sprawl

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Aug 25, 2013 11:05 AM
double arm bars;1490982 wrote:Do many soccer athletes do anything else?
Their other sport is "indoor soccer", much the way wrestlers other sport is "freestyle (and elite soccer is a year round sport... School team in the fall, indoor in the winter, club team in the spring, travel team in the summer.) Experience matters in most sports, and playing year round can fill an experience gap quickly...it's like getting extra seasons (think about how much the average kid on a wrestling team improves during the season). Each individual will have to balance whether that gain in experience is worth not having the experience of being involved in multiple school teams. Since the academic wrestling season is so long, I don't think it's as big a deal for wrestlers to not participate in a fall or spring school sports team.
Aug 25, 2013 11:05am
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Aug 26, 2013 2:32 PM
My son plays soccer to stay in shape for wrestling, a fun way to run! CC has a little to much wear and tear IMO but its not a bad sport by any means!
Aug 26, 2013 2:32pm
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Aug 28, 2013 10:57 AM
I tell the kids they have 4 years to be a high school athlete then its over. The experiences in high school last a lifetime. 40 years later I still remember my games from high school and my team mates. As for the scholarship thing if you want a scholarship put in the effort in the classroom. In the last two years we have had full scholarships to Notre Dame, Duke, and Ohio University all for academics none for wrestling. It does help when applying for academic scholarships to be well rounded and participate in extra curricular. Especially if you are a leader such as captain or MVP on your team.
Aug 28, 2013 10:57am
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Aug 28, 2013 2:04 PM
Lion69, so true. I am proud to have two former wrestlers currently at the Naval Academy and one will with an academic full ride to UNC-G before they dropped their program. Obviously, dropping the program did not affect him scholarship wise. With D1 teams only getting 9.9 scholarships, most wrestlers will never see a full ride just based on wrestling. The elite few might, but high academics is key.
Aug 28, 2013 2:04pm
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Aug 30, 2013 5:03 PM
Con_Alma;1490817 wrote:I disagree and I appreciate CC.

Soccer and football both can benefit the right kid who wrestles.
Not disagreeing with this. They can be a benefit. Just my opinion here; of the three choices (xc, soccer & football) as a preparation sport for wrestling, XC has the most cardiovascular benefits and least chances of injury.
Aug 30, 2013 5:03pm
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Sep 3, 2013 7:59 AM
I haven't read through all of the posts, but I've read most of them. There's some good stuff here. I assume it's been said, but I feel like it should TOTALLY up to the kid. I don't think one way is any better than the other. I specialized after my freshman season and I wouldn't have had it any other way. I feel like I'm reading a lot of "coaches should encourage multi-sport participation"...My question is, why? Let the kids make their own choices. Pressuring a kid to play multiple sports is no better than pressuring him to specialize.
Sep 3, 2013 7:59am
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Con_Alma

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Sep 3, 2013 9:42 AM
I am not seeing anyone suggest that pressure be applied to a student athlete by a coach.
Sep 3, 2013 9:42am
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Sep 3, 2013 10:03 AM
What many call encourage others call pressure. Often times an athlete, particularly in a small school environment, feels like they owe it to the school or the coach or the community or even their family to participate in sports that they could be successful. I've never been much of a recruiter. If a kid wants to participate, he'll come out for the sport. He shouldn't have to be convinced, by anyone, to come out.

I've worked with many coaches who pull kids out of the hallways to fill needs or just try to get kids to come out and help with depth or even just because they think it would be good for that particular kid. That's just not the way I've ever done it. But there's probably a reason I'm not now, nor will I ever be a Head Coach.
Sep 3, 2013 10:03am
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Sep 3, 2013 12:21 PM
Tony Mead;1491419 wrote:My son plays soccer to stay in shape for wrestling, a fun way to run! CC has a little to much wear and tear IMO but its not a bad sport by any means!

Apologize for hijacking the thread into a "soccer vs xc in preparation of wrestling" topic.


I question how xc has more wear and tear than soccer.
You have all out sprinting, cutting, stopping and reversing direction multiple times in soccer, unless you are a goalie or bench warmer.
I can go run 8 miles and my legs do not feel beat up as badly as after a 60 minute intense soccer game.

Of course in soccer you have a lot more rest periods and stoppage of action than xc. Your HR in soccer may get more elevated (than xc) for short periods but you also have a lot more rest time (walking, stop of play, half time, etc) for it to come back down.

Con_Alma;1494815 wrote:I'll take football for the upper weights any day. The constant handfighting and inside control lend to line-play.
Agree with this.
Sep 3, 2013 12:21pm
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Sep 3, 2013 12:26 PM
I'll take football for the upper weights any day. The constant handfighting and inside control lend to line-play.
Sep 3, 2013 12:26pm
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Sep 5, 2013 11:29 AM
Many valid points on this thread.
To say that there is one "best" method to the off-season training of a wrestler is problematic, I think. Champion wrestlers come from all walks of life: football, cross country, soccer, baseball, track, and, of course, specialization. (I'm sure there are even some great HS golfers out there who shoot par in the fall and kick butt on the mats in the winter.) The best method, I think, is to give the athlete options. After all, all athletes are different. A solid program should provide year-round training opportunities for the committed wrestling-only guy, a supportive environment for the committed multi-sport athlete, and a culture that helps nurture those lesser-committed athletes (whether they be one-sport guys or multi-sport guys) towards becoming more committed.
Sep 5, 2013 11:29am
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Sep 5, 2013 2:13 PM
That^^^
Sep 5, 2013 2:13pm
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Sep 5, 2013 3:27 PM
Always like to mention him when this topic comes up-

Tim Dernlan also qualified for the state XC meet as an individual and finished mid-pack.
A 3x state 'rasslin champ and a low 17 minute xc runner.

*Timmys feet were so small he had to wear girls running shoes. Nobody made fun of him tho'....
Sep 5, 2013 3:27pm