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Nov 24, 2013 5:03 PM
This is not made up folks. Drew Sharp of the Detroit Free Press honestly voted like this for his AP rankings...

1. Alabama
2. Florida State
3. Auburn
4. Oklahoma State
5. Ohio State
6. Missouri
7. Clemson
8. South Carolina
9. Baylor
10. Stanford
11. UCF
12. Arizona State
13. Oregon
14. Oklahoma
15. LSU
16. Michigan State
17. Wisconsin
18. Northern Illinois
19. Texas A&M
20. Louisville
21. Fresno State
22. UCLA
23. USC
24. Duke
25. Texas
Nov 24, 2013 5:03pm
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Nov 24, 2013 5:07 PM
Classyposter58;1542361 wrote:This is not made up folks. Drew Sharp of the Detroit Free Press honestly voted like this for his AP rankings...

1. Alabama
2. Florida State
3. Auburn
4. Oklahoma State
5. Ohio State
6. Missouri
7. Clemson
8. South Carolina
9. Baylor
10. Stanford
11. UCF
12. Arizona State
13. Oregon
14. Oklahoma
15. LSU
16. Michigan State
17. Wisconsin
18. Northern Illinois
19. Texas A&M
20. Louisville
21. Fresno State
22. UCLA
23. USC
24. Duke
25. Texas
Well, it's well known he is a worthless POS.
Nov 24, 2013 5:07pm
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Nov 24, 2013 5:27 PM
^What cracks me up is they love to dog Ohio State being undefeated because of a weak schedule (however now the season plays out its just as weak as FSU and Bama) but when schools like Boise or TCU were doing this (against much weaker overall schedules year in and out) they were crying for those schools to get a shot at a national title! Heck it was all aboard the Baylor train and they hadn't played anyone till last night. I still think the media hates OSU over the MC stuff and beating Miami and putting egg on every talking heads face except Lou Holtz! Outright OSU bias and it sux. They put the team at no 2 to start then drop them week after week victory after victory. Why the hell didn't they just start OSU like 10th then at the start of the year (its not like we didn't do the same thing last year in winning ugly alot)?
Nov 24, 2013 5:27pm
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Nov 24, 2013 5:46 PM
Another writer gave Michigan a vote...
Nov 24, 2013 5:46pm
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Nov 24, 2013 6:00 PM
Midstate01;1542383 wrote:Another writer gave Michigan a vote...
lol
Nov 24, 2013 6:00pm
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Nov 24, 2013 6:35 PM
How can anyone complain about Alabama being number 1? Yes, just like OSU and FSU they have had a weak schedule but come on man.
Nov 24, 2013 6:35pm
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Nov 24, 2013 6:38 PM
I can get the OSU vs FSU debate but as long as Bama wins, no issues from me
Nov 24, 2013 6:38pm
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Nov 24, 2013 6:47 PM
pmoney25;1542423 wrote:I can get the OSU vs FSU debate but as long as Bama wins, no issues from me
The issue is when people give bama a free pass because of "muh championships" and yet write off Ohio State and their streak because 2012 has no bearing on this season
Nov 24, 2013 6:47pm
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Nov 24, 2013 7:45 PM
Ohio State will absolutely fire bomb the skunkbears next Sat. My gut tells me this will be the worst ass whooping put on scUM since the 50-14 win in '68. The fire Brody Hake tide will really get rolling after this blood letting.
Nov 24, 2013 7:45pm
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Nov 24, 2013 8:36 PM
OSU closes gap between them and FSU in BCS (.9697 to .9200), Auburn way behind at 4 with .8236

NIU jumped Fresno for the BCS Buster spot. NIU is 14 and Fresno 16. AAC leader UCF is down at 19
Nov 24, 2013 8:36pm
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Nov 24, 2013 8:48 PM
ts1227;1542476 wrote:OSU closes gap between them and FSU in BCS (.9697 to .9200), Auburn way behind at 4 with .8236

NIU jumped Fresno for the BCS Buster spot. NIU is 14 and Fresno 16. AAC leader UCF is down at 19
see this, Mulva?
Nov 24, 2013 8:48pm
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Nov 24, 2013 8:50 PM
Sparty is 11th in the BCS. That bodes well for OSU.
Nov 24, 2013 8:50pm
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Nov 24, 2013 9:46 PM
It would help if South Carolina beats Clemson. If Clemson stays at one loss, that's enough to keep FSU number 2
Nov 24, 2013 9:46pm
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Nov 24, 2013 9:49 PM
pmoney25;1542498 wrote:It would help if South Carolina beats Clemson. If Clemson stays at one loss, that's enough to keep FSU number 2
Winston getting charged would do more.
Nov 24, 2013 9:49pm
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Nov 24, 2013 9:53 PM
Mohican00;1542425 wrote:The issue is when people give bama a free pass because of "muh championships" and yet write off Ohio State and their streak because 2012 has no bearing on this season
This is exaxtly it. Media members ALWAYS go to the fact bama has won the last 2 titles. But when it's brought up osu hasnt lost in 2 seasons, they say last year doesn't count because it's last year. Always makes me scratch my head. In my mind fsu is the clear number 1 just on the way they've played. Some.media person asked if osu had only beaten miss st 20-7 what would the reaction have been? They'd have dropped, likely. But nothing was at all mentioned about it because it was bama. The sec bias really has gone too far. They've been awesome, but no 2 loss team should be in the top 10 unless there arent any good 1 loss teams out there.
Nov 24, 2013 9:53pm
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Nov 24, 2013 10:14 PM
Midstate01;1542504 wrote:This is exaxtly it. Media members ALWAYS go to the fact bama has won the last 2 titles. But when it's brought up osu hasnt lost in 2 seasons, they say last year doesn't count because it's last year. Always makes me scratch my head. In my mind fsu is the clear number 1 just on the way they've played. Some.media person asked if osu had only beaten miss st 20-7 what would the reaction have been? They'd have dropped, likely. But nothing was at all mentioned about it because it was bama. The sec bias really has gone too far. They've been awesome, but no 2 loss team should be in the top 10 unless there arent any good 1 loss teams out there.
This is my frustration with the polls.

First, the polls work a certain way. An arbitrary ranking is there to start. Teams really only drop when they lose and rise when they win.

However, objectively, if you look at South Carolina's resume vs Clemson's resume, how can you really argue it? Same with Stanford. In the end, what has Clemson done? They won, at home, against the SEC's 6th or 7th best team. Who else have they beaten?

I mean, sure, if all we're going to do is look at the L column, fine, but there has to be some subjectivity in it where you can actually watch a team and place them somewhere.
Nov 24, 2013 10:14pm
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Nov 24, 2013 10:37 PM
Problem is the perception is any sec team beating another sec team is a good win because its an sec team. But if vandy hadn't dropped the osu game and osu had beat them, it'd have been against a bad sec team by the national media. It's so annoying.
Nov 24, 2013 10:37pm
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Nov 24, 2013 11:09 PM
Midstate01;1542531 wrote:Problem is the perception is any sec team beating another sec team is a good win because its an sec team. But if vandy hadn't dropped the osu game and osu had beat them, it'd have been against a bad sec team by the national media. It's so annoying.
I do agree to an extent. I mean, people gotta actually watch the games and not just look at stats.

Beating Vandy isn't a bad win. Beating Iowa isn't a bad win. About equal. Just an example.

One thing the SEC DOES benefit from is name recognition. All of their schools recruit well and have had success recently. THIS YEAR, Florida and Arkansas are complete garbage, yet unimpressive wins over them isn't bashed like an unimpressive OSU win over Northwestern.
Nov 24, 2013 11:09pm
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Nov 24, 2013 11:52 PM
I could be crazy for even thinking this, but any chance at all OSU could jump FSU? The Buckeyes are playing Michigan, who sucks, but are at least a bowl team compared to FSU playing Florida. Then for the B1G championship, the Buckeyes will more than likely be playing a top 10 MSU team..compared to FSU playing a lowly ranked/unranked Duke/Miami/VT team.

Then you have to look at the Winston situation..would they really want to put a team in the ship when their star QB might not even be playing?
Nov 24, 2013 11:52pm
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Nov 25, 2013 12:01 AM
Pick6;1542593 wrote:I could be crazy for even thinking this, but any chance at all OSU could jump FSU? The Buckeyes are playing Michigan, who sucks, but are at least a bowl team compared to FSU playing Florida. Then for the B1G championship, the Buckeyes will more than likely be playing a top 10 MSU team..compared to FSU playing a lowly ranked/unranked Duke/Miami/VT team.

Then you have to look at the Winston situation..would they really want to put a team in the ship when their star QB might not even be playing?
Unlikely, but not completely out of the question. The BCS formulation number really swung OSU's way this week. It could continue if the right pieces fall. Aside from Alabama or Florida State losing...

OSU needs Wisconsin (over Penn State), Michigan State (over Minnesota), Arizona State (over Arizona) and Notre Dame (over Stanford). They also could benefit secondarily if Clemson (to South Carolina) and the entire ACC moves more teams toward .500 (PITT over MIAMI, UNC over DUKE, NCSU over MARY, CUSE over BC).

Also, Georgia Tech beating Georgia would be big (should be easy with Murray out, game in Atlanta). Georgia, despite having 4 losses, has 4 losses to Clemson (BCS 6), Missouri (BCS 5), Auburn (BCS 4). They still rank very favorably in the computer polls are really still considered a GREAT win for Clemson.
Nov 25, 2013 12:01am
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Nov 25, 2013 12:03 AM
Pick6;1542593 wrote:I could be crazy for even thinking this, but any chance at all OSU could jump FSU? The Buckeyes are playing Michigan, who sucks, but are at least a bowl team compared to FSU playing Florida. Then for the B1G championship, the Buckeyes will more than likely be playing a top 10 MSU team..compared to FSU playing a lowly ranked/unranked Duke/Miami/VT team.

Then you have to look at the Winston situation..would they really want to put a team in the ship when their star QB might not even be playing?
OSU made up basically .03 points this week, which is pretty substantial when your talking a .08 separation to begin with. I think OSU could get very close, just not sure they can get over the hump though.
Nov 25, 2013 12:03am
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Nov 25, 2013 12:07 AM
Oh, forgot to add Iowa over Nebraska. An Iowa win to finish 4th overall in the B1G would be much better than Nebraska, a team OSU didn't play, doing so.
Nov 25, 2013 12:07am
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Nov 25, 2013 7:41 AM
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Nov 25, 2013 12:11 PM
sportchampps;1542193 wrote:MSU getting no love
it could be the fact that MSU couldn't beat a bad ND squad that lost to Pitt
Nov 25, 2013 12:11pm
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Nov 25, 2013 1:40 PM
KnightRyder;1542857 wrote:it could be the fact that MSU couldn't beat a bad ND squad that lost to Pitt
A top-25 ranked ND team.
Nov 25, 2013 1:40pm