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Dec 29, 2013 6:23 PM
McDaniels would def be the guy....strong ties to Lombardi's nutsack. FML
Dec 29, 2013 6:23pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:24 PM
I wish I could find my post. Same shit different year. We will be 4-12 Chud will be fired and back to the 4-3 we go.

When Chud was hired I hated it. But I rooted for the guy. Seriously they have to have a big name lined up. Have too.
Dec 29, 2013 6:24pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:25 PM
like_that;1558686 wrote:There are only 32 head coaching jobs in the NFL. When the opportunity is there, most people take it.
Depends on their current situation. An unemployed Lovie Smith? Most definitely. A Bill O'Brien or David Shaw who are in good situations where they are? Probably not.
Dec 29, 2013 6:25pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:28 PM
SportsAndLady;1558694 wrote:Lol when has a coach ever been against going somewhere because of how they treat their previous coaches?

If a super model wants to start dating you..are you going to say no and continue dating your average looking GF, becuase the super model broke up with her previous BF pretty quickly?
If you had a great job that you loved, but got an offer from another company with a little more pay, but the company is known for treating it's employees terribly, would it be an easy decision to leave your current job? I guess everyone is different, but I'm not uprooting my family, and taking them half way across the country on a gamble.
Dec 29, 2013 6:28pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:30 PM
se-alum;1558700 wrote:If you had a great job that you loved, but got an offer from another company with a little more pay, but the company is known for treating it's employees terribly, would it be an easy decision to leave your current job? I guess everyone is different, but I'm not uprooting my family, and taking them half way across the country on a gamble.
I agree, but we also don't have the egos of these guys. They want to be the best...and being the best means highest paid to most athletes/coaches
Dec 29, 2013 6:30pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:30 PM
David Shaw isn't leaving Stanford though, so he won't even be an option.
Dec 29, 2013 6:30pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:31 PM
SportsAndLady;1558694 wrote:Lol when has a coach ever been against going somewhere because of how they treat their previous coaches?

If a super model wants to start dating you..are you going to say no and continue dating your average looking GF, becuase the super model broke up with her previous BF pretty quickly?
That's the best comparison you had?

No way does the Stanford coach leave. He has a great job at an elite college and Im sure money isn't an issue with him. He wont leave a secure job to get a season or two with the Browns to be canned and go back to college again.
Dec 29, 2013 6:31pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:32 PM
wes_mantooth;1558693 wrote:yeah, maybe...but Mangini wasn't their guy...at least I dont think he was. I pisses me off that you hire a guy then fire him when you didn't give him a chance. I have a lot of issues with Chud, but none were worth firing over in the first year. These two idiots running things didn't get him much in FA and they basically traded away the draft, so they didn't put him in the best position possible. Just my opinion
Yeah, its like they hired chud knowing that he wasn't their guy, and they had someone else in mind for the following year. It was more of a "throwing shit at a wall and seeing if it sticks" type of hiring.
LJ;1558699 wrote:Depends on their current situation. An unemployed Lovie Smith? Most definitely. A Bill O'Brien or David Shaw who are in good situations where they are? Probably not.
A lot coaches work to be a NFL HC in their lifetime, thus why if there is an opportunity they take it. Most times when a coach is taking over a new NFL team, the reason they are taking over is because the team sucked ass. Not many coaches get to walk into a perfect opportunity like Harbaugh.
Dec 29, 2013 6:32pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:36 PM
Michael Silver ‏@MikeSilver 24m Another Browns player: "This organization is a joke."
Dec 29, 2013 6:36pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:37 PM
I have a feeling it'll be a Ray Horton promotion. He'll bring in a new DC and we'll stick with the 3-4. Norv will keep control of the offense. Book it.
Dec 29, 2013 6:37pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:39 PM
Sweet season......

I'm hoping for another 8-10 wins next year

next year
Dec 29, 2013 6:39pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:41 PM
The Browns(if they fire Chud), have fired 4 coaches in 6 seasons. What coach wouldn't want to walk into that mess?
Dec 29, 2013 6:41pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:41 PM
Mulva;1558706 wrote:Michael Silver ‏@MikeSilver 24m Another Browns player: "This organization is a joke."
Pinkston called BS on mike silver
Dec 29, 2013 6:41pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:42 PM
like_that;1558704 wrote:Yeah, its like they hired chud knowing that he wasn't their guy, and they had someone else in mind for the following year. It was more of a "throwing shit at a wall and seeing if it sticks" type of hiring.


A lot coaches work to be a NFL HC in their lifetime, thus why if there is an opportunity they take it. Most times when a coach is taking over a new NFL team, the reason they are taking over is because the team sucked ass. Not many coaches get to walk into a perfect opportunity like Harbaugh.
We aren't talking personnel issues here. This is a management issue that would scare coaches off that are stable where they are. I think the threat of uprooting your life to only get a year or 2 would be too disconcerting for the currently employed big name guys. The uncertainty made college coaches turn the Browns down last year, and the management situation seems worse from an employee point of view.

I think the Browns do have a lot to make them a good job. 5 pro bowlers. Some good picks coming up, great fan base. Good facilities. A good coach could succeed there, but will management let them?
Dec 29, 2013 6:42pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:51 PM
LJ;1558714 wrote:We aren't talking personnel issues here. This is a management issue that would scare coaches off that are stable where they are. I think the threat of uprooting your life to only get a year or 2 would be too disconcerting for the currently employed big name guys. The uncertainty made college coaches turn the Browns down last year, and the management situation seems worse from an employee point of view.

I think the Browns do have a lot to make them a good job. 5 pro bowlers. Some good picks coming up, great fan base. Good facilities. A good coach could succeed there, but will management let them?
Which college coaches?
Dec 29, 2013 6:51pm
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Dec 29, 2013 6:53 PM
like_that;1558717 wrote:Which college coaches?
Chip Kelly and Bill O'Brien
Dec 29, 2013 6:53pm
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Dec 29, 2013 7:01 PM
LJ;1558718 wrote:Chip Kelly and Bill O'Brien

I dont think the talks with O'Brien got anywhere serious. Kelly picked the eagles because the personnel was better.
Dec 29, 2013 7:01pm
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Dec 29, 2013 7:02 PM
like_that;1558720 wrote:I dont think the talks with O'Brien got anywhere serious. Kelly picked the eagles because the personnel was better.
And they gave him final control of the roster.

No coach is getting that here, and it will limit the types of candidates we can attract.
Dec 29, 2013 7:02pm
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Dec 29, 2013 7:05 PM
like_that;1558720 wrote:I dont think the talks with O'Brien got anywhere serious. Kelly picked the eagles because the personnel was better.
O'Brien told the Eagles and the Browns "thanks for the interviews but I'm gonna a stay here"

And like Iggy said, a big factor for Kelly going to Philly was his ability to have full control just like running a college team.
Dec 29, 2013 7:05pm
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Dec 29, 2013 7:06 PM
LJ;1558714 wrote:We aren't talking personnel issues here. This is a management issue that would scare coaches off that are stable where they are. I think the threat of uprooting your life to only get a year or 2 would be too disconcerting for the currently employed big name guys.
You do not know this, but no surprise to see you're pretending like you know what it's like in the head of a potential NFL coach currently coaching at a lesser job. LOL
Dec 29, 2013 7:06pm
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Dec 29, 2013 7:08 PM
I think O Brien end up in Texas. He can go to the Texans who are closer then the Browns are to winning or to Texas and have great recruiting classes guaranteed in college.

please don't hire Zimmer away from the bengals.
Dec 29, 2013 7:08pm
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Dec 29, 2013 7:09 PM
SportsAndLady;1558729 wrote:You do not know this, but no surprise to see you're pretending like you know what it's like in the head of a potential NFL coach currently coaching at a lesser job. LOL
I just know what its like when looking for a new job and a place that won't keep an employee for more than 6 months but pays double keeps calling.
Dec 29, 2013 7:09pm
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Dec 29, 2013 7:12 PM
4th pick in the draft, by the way.
1 HOU 16 2 14 0 0.125 0.561
2 STL(WAS) 16 3 13 0 0.188 0.517
3 JAX 16 4 12 0 0.250 0.509
4 CLE 16 4 12 0 0.250 0.519
Dec 29, 2013 7:12pm
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Dec 29, 2013 7:14 PM
LJ;1558726 wrote:O'Brien told the Eagles and the Browns "thanks for the interviews but I'm gonna a stay here"

And like Iggy said, a big factor for Kelly going to Philly was his ability to have full control just like running a college team.
O'Brien felt as if he owed it to PSU to stay another year. Also, I am not a fan of coaches having full personnel control. It normally doesn't work out. We will see how it works out for Kelly after a couple drafts and teams having a lot more game film on his system.
SportsAndLady;1558729 wrote:You do not know this, but no surprise to see you're pretending like you know what it's like in the head of a potential NFL coach currently coaching at a lesser job. LOL
This brought the lulz as well. Not surprising coming from LJ.
LJ;1558731 wrote:I just know what its like when looking for a new job and a place that won't keep an employee for more than 6 months but pays double keeps calling.
I always find it funny when people try to correlate their own professional lives to that of pro sports. Just stop, there is no correlation.
Dec 29, 2013 7:14pm
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Mulva;1558734 wrote:4th pick in the draft, by the way.
1 HOU 16 2 14 0 0.125 0.561
2 STL(WAS) 16 3 13 0 0.188 0.517
3 JAX 16 4 12 0 0.250 0.509
4 CLE 16 4 12 0 0.250 0.519
I was really hoping Washington pulled the game off today.
Dec 29, 2013 7:15pm