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Sep 19, 2013 12:01 PM
May have been stated but I havent red it yet on here......Richardson found out he was traded when his buddy called him and then he turned on the radio and heard it?
Sep 19, 2013 12:01pm
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Sep 19, 2013 12:05 PM
Just saw that the Browns save 6.6 million by trading Richardson. They will be forced to spend a ton of money in the offseason. They will have to overpay to get guys to Cleveland, but it's something that will have to be done.
Sep 19, 2013 12:05pm
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Sep 19, 2013 12:20 PM
se-alum;1503733 wrote:Just saw that the Browns save 6.6 million by trading Richardson. They will be forced to spend a ton of money in the offseason. They will have to overpay to get guys to Cleveland, but it's something that will have to be done.
Assuming they get their QB, they'll have no excuses for him to not be successful his first year. They have to be at that salary "floor" this year, I believe, so they should be able to field a pretty nice team with all of the draft picks and potential FA pickups.
Sep 19, 2013 12:20pm
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Sep 19, 2013 12:20 PM
Hey guise, did you hear t rich found out about the trade on the radio?
Sep 19, 2013 12:20pm
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Sep 19, 2013 12:33 PM
The funny thing (see: sad) about the 2012 draft, we all talked about how it would be pretty hard to fuck it up with all the picks we have. Well, we pretty much only have Billy Winn and maybe Schwartz (if he gets his head out of his ass) to show for it. LOL.
Sep 19, 2013 12:33pm
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Sep 19, 2013 1:01 PM
BR1986FB;1503698 wrote:Still would need veteran WR's. Can't rely on a rookie or a 3rd year player who likes the purple drank. Besides, I'm skeptical Gordon is even a Brown next year.
If the browns biggest problem is having to find a veteran QB, were doing 10000000x better than what we've been used to.

Come on you're seriously saying a first round WR, Gordon, and a 2nd round RB along with a top QB wouldn't suffice?
Sep 19, 2013 1:01pm
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Sep 19, 2013 1:01 PM
like_that;1503762 wrote:I will root for T Rich to succeed, just hopefully it doesn't translate to wins this season!
Same here, he seems like a genuinely good dude.

On another note, it's really starting to seem like the Alabama RB's are a product of their dominant offensive lines. The jury is still out on Lacy of course, but neither Richardson or Mark Ingram seem capable of reaching the production they showed at 'Bama.
Sep 19, 2013 1:01pm
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Sep 19, 2013 1:04 PM
SportsAndLady;1503779 wrote:If the browns biggest problem is having to find a veteran QB, were doing 10000000x better than what we've been used to.

Come on you're seriously saying a first round WR, Gordon, and a 2nd round RB along with a top QB wouldn't suffice?
Yes, I am. How's the young receiving corps been working out for us? Need a reliable veteran.
Sep 19, 2013 1:04pm
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Sep 19, 2013 1:16 PM
SportsAndLady;1503779 wrote:If the browns biggest problem is having to find a veteran QB, were doing 10000000x better than what we've been used to.

Come on you're seriously saying a first round WR, Gordon, and a 2nd round RB along with a top QB wouldn't suffice?
Sorry. Veteran WR
Sep 19, 2013 1:16pm
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Sep 19, 2013 1:18 PM
BR1986FB;1503781 wrote:Yes, I am. How's the young receiving corps been working out for us? Need a reliable veteran.
Well it certainly doesn't help that our QB blows asshole. So does our line.

And last I checked, Gordon had a really good rookie season, and hasn't played at all this year.

Obviously little will be gone. Gordon, first round WR, bess, and a veteran WR will be golden.
Sep 19, 2013 1:18pm
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Sep 19, 2013 1:24 PM
Still not sure why everyone seems to be counting on Gordon. He's been unreliable, to date.

A new QB, some veteran WR's, a new RB along with a RG and, yes, this offense should look a lot better. The key will be the receivers though. "If" Josh Gordon is back, they can't just draft a rookie WR opposite of him going into the season and expect magic. Bess is a nice piece but he's not a #2.
Sep 19, 2013 1:24pm
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Sep 19, 2013 1:28 PM
BR1986FB;1503781 wrote:Yes, I am. How's the young receiving corps been working out for us? Need a reliable veteran.
Why not both? We have the $.
Sep 19, 2013 1:28pm
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Sep 19, 2013 1:29 PM
BR1986FB;1503797 wrote:Still not sure why everyone seems to be counting on Gordon. He's been unreliable, to date.

A new QB, some veteran WR's, a new RB along with a RG and, yes, this offense should look a lot better. The key will be the receivers though. "If" Josh Gordon is back, they can't just draft a rookie WR opposite of him going into the season and expect magic. Bess is a nice piece but he's not a #2.
The key is NOT the WRs. How are you still not getting that? The key is, and will always be, getting a QB who is worth a damn and having an oline that can protect him.
Sep 19, 2013 1:29pm
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Sep 19, 2013 1:32 PM
SportsAndLady;1503803 wrote:The key is NOT the WRs. How are you still not getting that? The key is, and will always be, getting a QB who is worth a damn and having an oline that can protect him.
Umm, yeah....with a ROOKIE QB the key IS the receivers. Give old Bridgewater our current WR's or Tom Brady's current receivers and he's going to look like shit. Sorry but RGIII looks like a bag of turds last year without that veteran group (Garcon, Moss, etc). Andrew Luck had the benefit of Reggie Wayne.
Sep 19, 2013 1:32pm
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Sep 19, 2013 1:34 PM
BR1986FB;1503804 wrote:Umm, yeah....with a ROOKIE QB the key IS the receivers. Give old Bridgewater our current WR's or Tom Brady's current receivers and he's going to look like shit. Sorry but RGIII looks like a bag of turds last year without that veteran group (Garcon, Moss, etc). Andrew Luck had the benefit of Reggie Wayne.
Josh Gordon and a first round WR isn't garbage though. No shit if you're throwing the ball to an undrafted rookie out of Cincinnati he's not going to succeed. But the QB needs to be there before anything else.
Sep 19, 2013 1:34pm
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Sep 19, 2013 1:53 PM
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Sep 19, 2013 2:01 PM
At first last night I was PISSED about the trade.

Once I calmed down I actually think, while it sucks for this season, the Browns got the better end of the trade.

The Colts, in my opinion, are taking a big step down in record this year from last. The reason is they play a much tougher schedule. I see them going 7-9 this year. 7-9 puts the pick we got from the Colts in the 10-12 range.

Now that we have traded TRich, we are looking at 4-5 wins tops, which puts us drafting in the top 5. So 2 picks in the top 12 as well as all the other picks we have in this years draft, they can move to whatever spot they want to get the QB they want, without having to use both 1st rounders.

I hate it and I like it all at the same time.
Sep 19, 2013 2:01pm
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Sep 19, 2013 2:07 PM
Colts are not going 7-9 no way
Sep 19, 2013 2:07pm
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Sep 19, 2013 2:07 PM
Four or five wins, from what we've seen, is extremely generous. We could be going into the "Bridgewater Bowl" against the Jags with an "O-fer" hanging around our necks in the win column.
Sep 19, 2013 2:07pm
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Sep 19, 2013 2:08 PM
BR1986FB;1503823 wrote:Four or five wins, from what we've seen, is extremely generous. We could be going into the "Bridgewater Bowl" against the Jags with an "O-fer" hanging around our necks in the win column.
Nope we're winning on Sunday.
Sep 19, 2013 2:08pm
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Sep 19, 2013 2:11 PM
SportsAndLady;1503821 wrote:Colts are not going 7-9 no way
I know, right. What an obscene prediction.

MOre like 9-7
Sep 19, 2013 2:11pm