wes_mantooth;1503319 wrote:I get the argument, but I guess I just don't like what this tells the fans for THIS year. They are in full on tank mode when you trade your high first round pick from a year ago.
SportsAndLady;1503309 wrote:I wonder what it would take to get cousins from Washington?
BR1986FB;1503534 wrote:The ones I DO feel bad for are Joe Thomas & DQ Jackson. They were under the impression that things were "different." Now they have to be thinking "here we fucking go AGAIN."
Not really. Weeden sucks and everyone saw the underhand pass from Campbell at the end of the game...so it didn't really matter what trainwreck of a qb they threw out there. Trich was their "star power"...and to the casual fan, this was much worse.BR1986FB;1503535 wrote:Umm...the starting of Hoyer should've sent that signal to most. LOL
I think they are forced to draft either a Olineman or a WR with that other 1st rounder then. And they must be active via free agency.sportchampps;1503541 wrote:Ok lets say the Browns use their picks or earn the number 1 pick in the draft and get Brisgewater the consensus number 1 QB. Then Bridgewater still won't have any options outside of Cameron and maybe Gordon on offense. He will still be stuck playing behind an awful OLine. The Browns just need so much on the offense side of the ball. For the Browns sake I don't wanna see them draft Bridgewater and let him get killed behind that line until he either gets hurt or develops bad habits trying to protect himself.
From the non-replacement of Oneil Cousins to the insertion of Hoyer at QB and now the trade of Richardson, they are sending a clear message that they are not in "win now" mode. Campbell would've likely given them a better shot to win but they know what they have in him. Lombardi loves him some Hoyer and they want to see if he can come out looking like a genius by seeing what he's got in his boy. The ones I feel sorry for are season ticketholders and the Browns vets who have had to suffer through this.wes_mantooth;1503540 wrote:Not really. Weeden sucks and everyone saw the underhand pass from Campbell at the end of the game...so it didn't really matter what trainwreck of a qb they threw out there. Trich was their "star power"...and to the casual fan, this was much worse.
Well based on this post they are fucked either way. Might as well get a first rounder out of it. Also I refuse to believe their line is that bad.sportchampps;1503541 wrote:Ok lets say the Browns use their picks or earn the number 1 pick in the draft and get Brisgewater the consensus number 1 QB. Then Bridgewater still won't have any options outside of Cameron and maybe Gordon on offense. He will still be stuck playing behind an awful OLine. The Browns just need so much on the offense side of the ball. For the Browns sake I don't wanna see them draft Bridgewater and let him get killed behind that line until he either gets hurt or develops bad habits trying to protect himself.
yeah, i am in the same boat...I wasn't big on moving up to get Trich, but i hate the message they are sending for this year.BR1986FB;1503546 wrote:From the non-replacement of Oneil Cousins to the insertion of Hoyer at QB and now the trade of Richardson, they are sending a clear message that they are not in "win now" mode. Campbell would've likely given them a better shot to win but they know what they have in him. Lombardi loves him some Hoyer and they want to see if he can come out looking like a genius by seeing what he's got in his boy. The ones I feel sorry for are season ticketholders and the Browns vets who have had to suffer through this.
Overall, I think it was a great trade but don't like the message it's sending.
I do agree that trading Joe Thomas probably isn't a bad idea right now. By the time they are any good, from how it looks, he'll be riding around in a Rascal.
And the sad part is that they have SEVEN home games remaining. Attendance could be Tribe-like. Ouch.wes_mantooth;1503549 wrote:yeah, i am in the same boat...I wasn't big on moving up to get Trich, but i hate the message they are sending for this year.
I like him because I think he can be similar to Kaepernick but what do I know as it's looking like I pissed down my leg hitching my wagon to Weeden.mucalum49;1503556 wrote:Not sure if he'll even come out for the 2014 draft but I think Marcus Mariota is going to be a good QB in the NFL. Has the size, arm and athletic ability. Hopefully he's a strong leader as I think we see with guys like Cam if you aren't ready to be a leader then those physical skills don't matter in terms of wins and losses.
My eye test says that Clowney is the best defensive front 7 prospect since Lawrence Taylor. But it is the Browns strongest position. No way that you don't take him there, but I can not imagine that 20-25 other teams would not want to trade up to get him.BR1986FB;1503555 wrote:Here's a hypothetical (and I hate talking draft this early), but if the Browns continue on like this we're probably looking at a top 3 pick. Let's say the Jags finish in the #1 spot and the Browns draft #2, if JAX takes Bridgewater do you take the QB #2 or grab Clowney?
Be about the Browns luck to pass on Lawrence Taylor in favor of Charlie Frye. LOLSonofanump;1503562 wrote:My eye test says that Clowney is the best defensive front 7 prospect since Lawrence Taylor. But it is the Browns strongest position. No way that you don't take him there, but I can not imagine that 20-25 other teams would not want to trade up to get him.
I actually think Manziel will succeed in the NFL. Most scout say no, he is a 3rd round project reach.
I think this is pretty obvious. They've been stockpiling picks since the draft when they did, essentially, nothing.SportsAndLady;1503570 wrote:
Also...don't be surprised if we made this trade to have "move up" ammo in next year's draft. Say we finish 5th in the draft, we could use this extra first round pick and maybe one of the 3rd or 4ths to move up spots to take the best QB in the draft.
First time I will ever say this, but people should not show up. It is time the FO feels it.BR1986FB;1503551 wrote:And the sad part is that they have SEVEN home games remaining. Attendance could be Tribe-like. Ouch.
Trade down.BR1986FB;1503555 wrote:Here's a hypothetical (and I hate talking draft this early), but if the Browns continue on like this we're probably looking at a top 3 pick. Let's say the Jags finish in the #1 spot and the Browns draft #2, if JAX takes Bridgewater do you take the QB #2 or grab Clowney?
Trade down if its only a few spots.Automatik;1503558 wrote:Hypothetically, if Cleveland gets the #1 pick...do you take Clowney or trade?
