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Jan 4, 2013 2:59 AM
If Chip does become the Browns coach do you think Cleveland wins more or less games next year?
Jan 4, 2013 2:59am
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Jan 4, 2013 6:07 AM
They will win more next year no matter who the coach is. Easy home schedule and a couple of the bad break losses will turn into wins.
Jan 4, 2013 6:07am
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Jan 4, 2013 8:27 AM
wes_mantooth;1357156 wrote:I am not saying Kelly won't make it in the NFL, but I just don't see how that offense will work. He really better adapt.

This is my feelings too. I would be cool if they hired him, because IF it works, it'd be incredible to watch in the NFL. But it's a high risk-high reward move, and Cleveland historically doesn't do too well w/ those :(
Jan 4, 2013 8:27am
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Jan 4, 2013 8:31 AM
SportsAndLady;1357127 wrote:Well when I posted that, Oregon wasn't doing anything on offense for about an entire quarter. You should not be stumped by Kansas State's defense.

I just don't think his offense translates well to the NFL.

Complete guess though..I could be 100% wrong
I have to agree with this. For some reason I just don't see Chip being successful in the NFL because of what he does in college. I don't think watching Oregon play is any indication of what his success would be in the NFL. That doesn't mean he can't be, but it won't be by bringing Oregon to Cleveland. If scoring points in college is the criteria, then hire Rich Rodriguez. :)

I would want a proven NFL commodity, if available. I'll be curious what Lovie does with another team. Could he have success in Cleveland? I'm not sure.
Jan 4, 2013 8:31am
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Jan 4, 2013 9:49 AM
The touched on Kelly's transition to the pros during the post game.

Saying he would obviously have to adapt to the NFL game, but bring along aspects of his current system. A young team is a must, which bodes well for Cleveland, but the right pieces need to be in place.

I'd be interested to see him use his ultra fast hurry up in the NFL. Of course you see the hurry up now, but nothing like he runs at Oregon. He gassed the shit out of KSU's D last night. I'd like to see how it would work in the big leagues.
Jan 4, 2013 9:49am
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Jan 4, 2013 9:49 AM
What Chip will bring to the NFL:

- Uptempo, one-word play calling offense
- Ability to adapt to personnel. He ran a pass heavy offense at his prior coaching stop in New Hampshire. The school leader in pass attempt, completions, total yards and yards in a season all came from the time Chip was there. Then he moved to Oregon and switched to a record breaking rushing read-option spread.

The guy isn't married to that scheme. He just wants the team to do what maximizes their talents at a frantic pace. It's different but nothing that the Patriots/Saints/Broncos/Seahawks/Colts haven't already started to go to. To me having an adaptable coach is refreshing after Holmgren saying we'd be a WCO team and trying to fit a square peg into a round hole type mentality.
Jan 4, 2013 9:49am
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Jan 4, 2013 10:08 AM
mucalum49;1357283 wrote:What Chip will bring to the NFL:

- Uptempo, one-word play calling offense
- Ability to adapt to personnel. He ran a pass heavy offense at his prior coaching stop in New Hampshire. The school leader in pass attempt, completions, total yards and yards in a season all came from the time Chip was there. Then he moved to Oregon and switched to a record breaking rushing read-option spread.

The guy isn't married to that scheme. He just wants the team to do what maximizes their talents at a frantic pace. It's different but nothing that the Patriots/Saints/Broncos/Seahawks/Colts haven't already started to go to. To me having an adaptable coach is refreshing after Holmgren saying we'd be a WCO team and trying to fit a square peg into a round hole type mentality.
Seeing his NH QB was the the leader in pass attempts, completions, total yards, etc does not make me feel comfortable. That just tells me Trich will be rotting in the backfield once again.
Jan 4, 2013 10:08am
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Jan 4, 2013 10:18 AM
like_that;1357299 wrote:Seeing his NH QB was the the leader in pass attempts, completions, total yards, etc does not make me feel comfortable. That just tells me Trich will be rotting in the backfield once again.
Not the point I was getting at. People keep referencing that he runs the read option in excess at Oregon (truth) and that he'd bring that exact offense to the NFL. The point I was trying to make is he isn't a guy who has coached the read option and that's all he knows. When he was at NH he had a pass heavy offense. He can adapt to the personnel available to him. He's even said it himself which is why I'm shocked people think he'll be a failure because of what Oregon does. He may very well fail but I don't think it'll be because he tries to turn an NFL offense into a strictly read option team.
Jan 4, 2013 10:18am
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Jan 4, 2013 10:30 AM
Here are my worries about Kelly. Speed is what he uses to be successful at Oregon, as his teams have the speed advantage in nearly every game. In the NFL, most all teams are pretty equal in speed, so that advantage is gone. When his Oregon teams have come up against defenses that can match their speed, they tend to struggle.
Jan 4, 2013 10:30am
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Jan 4, 2013 10:33 AM
se-alum;1357329 wrote:Here are my worries about Kelly. Speed is what he uses to be successful at Oregon, as his teams have the speed advantage in nearly every game. In the NFL, most all teams are pretty equal in speed, so that advantage is gone. When his Oregon teams have come up against defenses that can match their speed, they tend to struggle.
I think the Browns should just move from the AFC North to the SEC...then we will be faster. Although, not sure that we would have won more games this year....fuck you pat shurmur
Jan 4, 2013 10:33am
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Jan 4, 2013 11:02 AM
John Clayton just reported browns are the front runners for chip kelly
Jan 4, 2013 11:02am
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Jan 4, 2013 1:23 PM
From here on out, any trolling and/or unprovoked attacks against posters for simply disagreeing with your position will result in infractions and thread bans. We don't want to ban anyone from season threads like this, but you can't keep constantly attacking other posters.
Jan 4, 2013 1:23pm
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Jan 4, 2013 1:47 PM
se-alum;1357515 wrote:From here on out, any trolling and/or unprovoked attacks against posters for simply disagreeing with your position will result in infractions and thread bans. We don't want to ban anyone from season threads like this, but you can't keep constantly attacking other posters.
/Huddled
Jan 4, 2013 1:47pm
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Jan 4, 2013 1:50 PM
What divisions does the AFC North play next year?
Jan 4, 2013 1:50pm
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Jan 4, 2013 1:56 PM
AFC North and NFC North is matched for the full division pairings, not sure on the other.
Jan 4, 2013 1:56pm
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Jan 4, 2013 2:05 PM
Looks like AFC East also. I just searched for it and found a site that tells you out till 2019. Not sure how accurate it is. Also disregard the conference names under the schedule each year. Even though it shows AFC East and NFC North for 2013 I'm not sure why it says "AFC South" and "AFC West".

ttp://www.johnnyroadtrip.com/schedules/nfl_future_afcn.htm
Jan 4, 2013 2:05pm
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Jan 4, 2013 2:27 PM
se-alum;1357515 wrote:From here on out, any trolling and/or unprovoked attacks against posters for simply disagreeing with your position will result in infractions and thread bans. We don't want to ban anyone from season threads like this, but you can't keep constantly attacking other posters.

You hardly post in this thread. We seriously do not need any of your over regulation. We can regulate our own threads, thanks.
Jan 4, 2013 2:27pm
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Jan 4, 2013 2:40 PM
like_that;1357575 wrote:You hardly post in this thread. We seriously do not need any of your over regulation. We can regulate our own threads, thanks.
+1

No one comes on this thread other than browns fans and trolls...if we call a troll a "bad name" who cares? It'll just eliminate the problem: trolls.
Jan 4, 2013 2:40pm
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Jan 4, 2013 2:41 PM
SportsAndLady;1357587 wrote:+1

No one comes on this thread other than browns fans and trolls...if we call a troll a "bad name" who cares? It'll just eliminate the problem: trolls.
Exactly. No troll has survived this thread.
Jan 4, 2013 2:41pm
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Jan 4, 2013 2:43 PM
like_that;1357575 wrote:You hardly post in this thread. We seriously do not need any of your over regulation. We can regulate our own threads, thanks.

I don't post hardly either, but I read just above everything in this thread. People, including yourself, complain about trolling, and this is the attempt to curb that. You "regulate" the threads by name calling, more trolling, and side railing the discussion. Thats not really acceptable.
Jan 4, 2013 2:43pm
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Jan 4, 2013 2:46 PM
GoChiefs;1357591 wrote:I don't post hardly either, but I read just above everything in this thread. People, including yourself, complain about trolling, and this is the attempt to curb that. You "regulate" the threads by name calling, more trolling, and side railing the discussion. Thats not really acceptable.
Yes that's not acceptable no one will want to post on these thre...ohhh wait
Jan 4, 2013 2:46pm
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Jan 4, 2013 2:48 PM
like_that;1357575 wrote:You hardly post in this thread. We seriously do not need any of your over regulation. We can regulate our own threads, thanks.
+2. we can take care of ourselves.
Jan 4, 2013 2:48pm
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Jan 4, 2013 2:48 PM
Bottom line, we want Wes moderating this thread. SE, TS, F4F need not apply.
Jan 4, 2013 2:48pm
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Jan 4, 2013 2:49 PM
jordo212000;1357078 wrote:I would go with Lovie as well. Good head coach
Ty Webb;1357120 wrote:Totally hypothetical question....

If Kelly gets this job...who does he get to play QB?
like_that;1357575 wrote:You hardly post in this thread. We seriously do not need any of your over regulation. We can regulate our own threads, thanks.
Neither post by jordo or Ty Webb were trolling, and they were immediately attacked. This isn't "your" thread, and they both have a right to their opinions as well.
Jan 4, 2013 2:49pm
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Jan 4, 2013 2:50 PM
se-alum;1357600 wrote:Neither post by jordo or Ty Webb were trolling, and they were immediately attacked. This isn't "your" thread, and they both have a right to their opinions as well.
No they don't. Their history/reputation speaks for itself.
Jan 4, 2013 2:50pm