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Apr 17, 2013 2:31 PM
BR1986FB;1427453 wrote:They supposedly have a chub for Milliner. Frankly, I'd rather have Rhodes.

Ill take trufonte over all of them
Apr 17, 2013 2:31pm
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Apr 17, 2013 3:16 PM
Crimson streak;1427487 wrote:Ill take trufonte over all of them
I'd be fine with that assuming a trade down.
Apr 17, 2013 3:16pm
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Apr 18, 2013 11:28 AM
Kiper posted what he'd consider an "A" draft for each time for rounds 1-3. Here is what he'd deem a success for the Browns.

Cleveland Browns

Top needs: CB, QB, G, ILB, TE

Rd. 1 (11) G Chance Warmack, Alabama (via San Diego)
Rd. 3 (68) QB EJ Manuel, Florida St.
Rd. 3 (76) CB Darius Slay, Mississippi St. (via San Diego)

Analysis: As the GM of the Browns, I trade down and still hit a top need. That No. 6 slot is a high-leverage one, because it could be the last chance for several teams in need to get one of the three top left tackle prospects. In this case, it's San Diego. I pick up this year's third and next year's as well. Without a second-round pick, the extra pick is a big help, and I still get a great player in Warmack, a guy who fills a need and should give a big boost to the run game. Warmack should be a Pro Bowl guard. The added third allows us to grab Manuel in a good value spot. For this draft you'll see I have quarterbacks lower than most, but that's a reflection of how I view the class. Lastly, Slay is a nice value in Round 3, an upgrade at the corner spot across from Joe Haden. This draft offers a good balance of immediate help at need spots, and the shot on upside at QB.
Apr 18, 2013 11:28am
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Apr 18, 2013 12:16 PM
mucalum49;1428095 wrote:Kiper posted what he'd consider an "A" draft for each time for rounds 1-3. Here is what he'd deem a success for the Browns.

Cleveland Browns

Top needs: CB, QB, G, ILB, TE

Rd. 1 (11) G Chance Warmack, Alabama (via San Diego)
Rd. 3 (68) QB EJ Manuel, Florida St.
Rd. 3 (76) CB Darius Slay, Mississippi St. (via San Diego)

Analysis: As the GM of the Browns, I trade down and still hit a top need. That No. 6 slot is a high-leverage one, because it could be the last chance for several teams in need to get one of the three top left tackle prospects. In this case, it's San Diego. I pick up this year's third and next year's as well. Without a second-round pick, the extra pick is a big help, and I still get a great player in Warmack, a guy who fills a need and should give a big boost to the run game. Warmack should be a Pro Bowl guard. The added third allows us to grab Manuel in a good value spot. For this draft you'll see I have quarterbacks lower than most, but that's a reflection of how I view the class. Lastly, Slay is a nice value in Round 3, an upgrade at the corner spot across from Joe Haden. This draft offers a good balance of immediate help at need spots, and the shot on upside at QB.
So a 3rd this year and next instead of a second this year. Sounds about even.
Apr 18, 2013 12:16pm
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Apr 18, 2013 12:17 PM
mucalum49;1428095 wrote:Kiper posted what he'd consider an "A" draft for each time for rounds 1-3. Here is what he'd deem a success for the Browns.

Cleveland Browns

Top needs: CB, QB, G, ILB, TE

Rd. 1 (11) G Chance Warmack, Alabama (via San Diego)
Rd. 3 (68) QB EJ Manuel, Florida St.
Rd. 3 (76) CB Darius Slay, Mississippi St. (via San Diego)

Analysis: As the GM of the Browns, I trade down and still hit a top need. That No. 6 slot is a high-leverage one, because it could be the last chance for several teams in need to get one of the three top left tackle prospects. In this case, it's San Diego. I pick up this year's third and next year's as well. Without a second-round pick, the extra pick is a big help, and I still get a great player in Warmack, a guy who fills a need and should give a big boost to the run game. Warmack should be a Pro Bowl guard. The added third allows us to grab Manuel in a good value spot. For this draft you'll see I have quarterbacks lower than most, but that's a reflection of how I view the class. Lastly, Slay is a nice value in Round 3, an upgrade at the corner spot across from Joe Haden. This draft offers a good balance of immediate help at need spots, and the shot on upside at QB.

Saw that, and I would be pretty happy if that's how it worked out. I like Manuel.
Apr 18, 2013 12:17pm
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Apr 18, 2013 12:20 PM
Still would prefer a second this yr. One 2nd > two 3 IMO. Otherwise why not trade seven 7th round picks for a 1st?
Apr 18, 2013 12:20pm
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Apr 18, 2013 2:37 PM
I didn't realize it until I read this, but I think I'm back to wanting Milliner. Looking at marginal benefits, he's the player that improves this team the most. CB is the biggest weakness IMO. Sure it would be nice to trade down, but the first pick has to be spent on the secondary (FS or CB) in my eyes. We have too many holes back there.
Apr 18, 2013 2:37pm
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Apr 18, 2013 6:58 PM
Jesus f*cking christ with this whole Jimmy Haslem thing. We FINALLY get a competent owner, except he and his company are under FBI investigation.

Will the curse EVER end?
Apr 18, 2013 6:58pm
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Apr 18, 2013 7:13 PM
Looking forward to an NFL statement. The legal process is slow, but fraud usually = jail right?
Apr 18, 2013 7:13pm
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Apr 18, 2013 7:38 PM
Candidly, this isn't looking very good.
Apr 18, 2013 7:38pm
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Apr 18, 2013 7:42 PM
Always something with the browns.
Apr 18, 2013 7:42pm
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Apr 18, 2013 7:44 PM
So the browns will be for sale. Or owned by the league? I mean it can't have any implications on the browns. Or else it will affect the steelers too.
Apr 18, 2013 7:44pm
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Apr 18, 2013 8:24 PM
Apr 18, 2013 8:24pm
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Apr 18, 2013 8:30 PM
Looks like 7 wins. Chance to finally win an opener!
Apr 18, 2013 8:30pm
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Apr 18, 2013 8:53 PM
8-8 would be my guess.
Apr 18, 2013 8:53pm
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Apr 18, 2013 9:07 PM
This lady is tweeting out a lot of quotes from the affidavit (quotes from Pilot employees):

https://twitter.com/carigervin

Not a lot about Haslam directly, but god damn what a shady company. I would have to think that either Haslam knew exactly what was going on, or he's the most incompetent CEO on the planet.
Apr 18, 2013 9:07pm
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Apr 18, 2013 9:08 PM
So who takes over ownership IF/When Jimmy goes to jail for fraud?
Apr 18, 2013 9:08pm
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Apr 18, 2013 9:10 PM
Oh good, we finish at Pitt. Hopefully either theyre in the playoffs and resting starters or we get to keep them out. We tend to fuck up rapistfucker, hope it continues
Apr 18, 2013 9:10pm
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Apr 18, 2013 9:10 PM
I do see us beating the Phins at home to start the season. Can't wait.
Apr 18, 2013 9:10pm
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Apr 18, 2013 9:14 PM
shook_17;1428547 wrote:So who takes over ownership IF/When Jimmy goes to jail for fraud?
As long as it isn't Randy Lerner IDGAF.
Apr 18, 2013 9:14pm
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Apr 18, 2013 9:23 PM
LOL watch it be Randy Lerner. He is still has minority stake in the company, and Lerner will buy it back on the cheap.

So does that mean Heckert, Shurmur and Holmgren come back?
Apr 18, 2013 9:23pm
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Apr 18, 2013 10:40 PM
if this stuff about Haslam and Flying J is true, it will be interesting to see what happens. The commissioner has fined and suspended players for conduct detrimental to the league and I don't see why this would be any different, plus with the IRS involved , the selling of assets could happen and the new owner will be here and we can start all over yet again with a new regime. Lets hope this doesn't happen, I am so tired of constantly starting over.
Apr 18, 2013 10:40pm
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Apr 18, 2013 10:55 PM
:D Lions at Browns! Time to fuck shit up in the dog pound
Apr 18, 2013 10:55pm