Just curious, what makes you think Smith is "overrated"?Tigerfan00;1419201 wrote:Nosportsandnolady up to his usual Im going to avoid comments Ive made in the past and act like I know what Im talking about. There is no QB in this draft even worth talking about or wasting a pick on. The Browns need to load up on the defense and Oline and worry about a QB next year.
Geno Smith will be the most overrated QB in this draft.
Tigerfan00;1419214 wrote:I dont see any QB this year that will be any better then a backup.
yes he said that and it brought out the lulzroyal_k;1419105 wrote:Weren't you the one that posted we should take a QB in the 1st round every year until we found a good one?
The fact that he is even being considered in the top 10 is a joke. He shouldn't even been considered in the first round.Automatik;1419211 wrote:Just curious, what makes you think Smith is "overrated"?
And what QB would you put before him?
Because he isn't a first round talent. Way to many flaws in his game. Teams just over value QBs.Pick6;1419236 wrote:So why do you guys think Smith is overrated
What flaws? His somewhat awkward delivery?shook_17;1419247 wrote:Because he isn't a first round talent. Way to many flaws in his game. Teams just over value QBs.
Pick6;1419236 wrote:So why do you guys think Smith is overrated
Same arm as Weeden, about half the age and twice as fast and mobile. He sucks.Automatik;1419285 wrote:What flaws? His somewhat awkward delivery?
I'm not saying he's going to be great, or even good. It just seems like a lot of the negative comments are pulled from no where.
Pick6;1419290 wrote:Same arm as Weeden, about half the age and twice as fast and mobile. He sucks.
I never said Romo was elite or not elite, nor did I state that he was worth the contract. I just posted stats to prove common misconceptions wrong. Please stop taking my comments out of context.Crimson streak;1419304 wrote:You also think romo is an elite qb and deserved a huge comment. And Troy smith should be a starting qb. I think ill pass on your qb evaluations
Would LOVE to get a 1st round pick to trade down...but I just don't see it. Especially not at 11. I think we could probably get a 2nd rounder next year though.like_that;1419373 wrote:I hope we trade down. If the Chargers (#11) were to trade for the 6th pick to get a LT what do you think the browns could get in return? Im thinking it could be a first round pick for a franchise LT.
http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/2013-nfl-draft-espn-s-mel-kiper-jr-believes-cleveland-browns-could-trade-from-no-6-1.386649#.UVyqeV7anCg.facebook
Maybe a 2nd.like_that;1419373 wrote:I hope we trade down. If the Chargers (#11) were to trade for the 6th pick to get a LT what do you think the browns could get in return? Im thinking it could be a first round pick for a franchise LT.
http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/2013-nfl-draft-espn-s-mel-kiper-jr-believes-cleveland-browns-could-trade-from-no-6-1.386649#.UVyqeV7anCg.facebook
#6 < #11 + #45 (increase of 6% of value)like_that;1419373 wrote:I hope we trade down. If the Chargers (#11) were to trade for the 6th pick to get a LT what do you think the browns could get in return? Im thinking it could be a first round pick for a franchise LT.
http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/2013-nfl-draft-espn-s-mel-kiper-jr-believes-cleveland-browns-could-trade-from-no-6-1.386649#.UVyqeV7anCg.facebook
SportsAndLady;1419376 wrote:Would LOVE to get a 1st round pick to trade down...but I just don't see it. Especially not at 11. I think we could probably get a 2nd rounder next year though.
Fuck that, if there are numerous teams looking for a franchise LT they can get more than just a 2nd. In terms of franchise positions, I would go QB #1, and LT #2.Mulva;1419378 wrote:Maybe a 2nd.
I mean maybe 2nd and a mid-late round pick?like_that;1419392 wrote:Fuck that, if there are numerous teams looking for a franchise LT they can get more than just a 2nd. In terms of franchise positions, I would go QB #1, and LT #2.
No doubt in my mind the starting price will be a 2nd rounder.SportsAndLady;1419432 wrote:I mean maybe 2nd and a mid-late round pick?
Just can't see anyone giving up much more than that
Depends on how many teams are interested in our pick. If there's just one team, probably just a 2nd. Couple teams, a little more. If Arizona, San Diego, and a couple other teams are after one of the 'Franchise LT', there may be more.SportsAndLady;1419432 wrote:I mean maybe 2nd and a mid-late round pick?
Just can't see anyone giving up much more than that
He has the same issues that everyone knocks Weeden for. He's a younger version of Weeden with mobility.Pick6;1419290 wrote:Same arm as Weeden, about half the age and twice as fast and mobile. He sucks.
Honest question--what are those issues?BR1986FB;1419493 wrote:He has the same issues that everyone knocks Weeden for. He's a younger version of Weeden with mobility.
Same "hurried in the pocket" comments you made about Weeden. Has had knocks on his poise/pocket presence, not extemely accurate, etc. If RGIII or Luck is sitting at our pick, I pull the trigger or even trade up...but for a mediocre QB who should be taken in the late 1st? Nah...I'd take him if he fell to the 2nd but we don't have that pick.SportsAndLady;1419498 wrote:Honest question--what are those issues?
That's both wrong and stupid. The age was just a cherry on top. Go back and re-read the Browns off-season thread from last year; we continuously brought up his pocket awareness, lack of accuracy in the pocket, lack of mobility, big 12 QB fallacies, etc. Then at teh very end we'd say "oh and he'll be 30 soon"BR1986FB;1419504 wrote: He's a monumental reach...and before you say "just like Weeden?" The only reason YOU were projecting Weeden as a later round QB was his age. The talent was there. Had he come out this year he'd be the best QB in this draft.
"We" meaning a bunch of internet "armchair GM's?" I didn't see as many knocks on him, by scouts/professionals, as were mentioned on here.SportsAndLady;1419505 wrote:That's both wrong and stupid. The age was just a cherry on top. Go back and re-read the Browns off-season thread from last year; we continuously brought up his pocket awareness, lack of accuracy in the pocket, lack of mobility, big 12 QB fallacies, etc. Then at teh very end we'd say "oh and he'll be 30 soon"
He wouldn't be the best QB in this year's draft..don't believe that at all.
