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QuakerOats

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Aug 29, 2014 2:02 PM
Fort Hood shooter requests to become citizen of ISIS...



And the obama regime called his terror attack "workplace violence".

Honest to God, we have elected the enemy.
Aug 29, 2014 2:02pm
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Aug 29, 2014 3:07 PM
QuakerOats;1648788 wrote:Fort Hood shooter requests to become citizen of ISIS...



And the obama regime called his terror attack "workplace violence".

Honest to God, we have elected the enemy.
Yawn.
What does it matter?
He is locked up.
Aug 29, 2014 3:07pm
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ptown_trojans_1

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Aug 29, 2014 3:08 PM
QuakerOats;1648310 wrote:obama is now directly responsible for the growing terror threat rising around the world.


Our allies do not respect us, and our enemies do not fear us.


He is a complete failure.
And the better option is?
So, if he is a failure, what is your alternative?

What would you like him to do better?
Aug 29, 2014 3:08pm
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Aug 29, 2014 3:53 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1648804 wrote:Yawn.
What does it matter?
He is locked up.
The point is, he's an Islamic terrorist and this was a terrorist act. To Obama, he wasn't a terrorist, he was a disgruntled worker and this was just workplace violence.

So in other words, Obama is a worthless piece of retarded trash.
Aug 29, 2014 3:53pm
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QuakerOats

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Aug 29, 2014 4:00 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1648804 wrote:Yawn.
What does it matter?
He is locked up.



Yawn ........... 4 dead in Bhenghazi; what difference does it make.






wow
Aug 29, 2014 4:00pm
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ptown_trojans_1

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Aug 29, 2014 5:27 PM
TedSheckler;1648811 wrote:The point is, he's an Islamic terrorist and this was a terrorist act. To Obama, he wasn't a terrorist, he was a disgruntled worker and this was just workplace violence.

So in other words, Obama is a worthless piece of retarded trash.
He was found guilty and will get the death penalty.
The terrorism charge was semantics and in the end does not matter.

QuakerOats;1648813 wrote:Yawn ........... 4 dead in Bhenghazi; what difference does it make.






wow
Oh, how cute you are.
If the President didn't bring up charges and let him walk, then we would have common ground, but the guy is locked up and is going to die. Why the hell should I care what he thinks now?
Quit giving the guy a platform.
He does not matter anymore.
Drop it.

You guys crack me up.
Aug 29, 2014 5:27pm
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Aug 29, 2014 6:20 PM
Agreed that according to the punishment, it doesn't matter.

What does matter was the administration's weak response, and it goes to credibility. It was one of the first tests of the Obama administration's stance on terror and the response was to downplay it. The following actions involve even more downplaying (aside from golf).

What is wrong with speaking the truth? Like everything about this administration, it is politicized to shield Obama from any criticism or responsibility and America appears to be sick with it. I don't expect much from our government, but honesty should be an easy one.
Aug 29, 2014 6:20pm
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Aug 29, 2014 6:33 PM
TedSheckler;1648811 wrote:The point is, he's an Islamic terrorist and this was a terrorist act. To Obama, he wasn't a terrorist, he was a disgruntled worker and this was just workplace violence.

So in other words, Obama is a worthless piece of retarded trash.
You are probably more likely to be killed by a co worker than a terrorist. I'd be more afraid of that.
Aug 29, 2014 6:33pm
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Aug 29, 2014 8:40 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1648831 wrote:He was found guilty and will get the death penalty.
The terrorism charge was semantics and in the end does not matter.



Oh, how cute you are.
If the President didn't bring up charges and let him walk, then we would have common ground, but the guy is locked up and is going to die. Why the hell should I care what he thinks now?
Quit giving the guy a platform.
He does not matter anymore.
Drop it.

You guys crack me up.
Correct me if I'm worng, but I believe he continued to get paid while in jail, if he had been properly labeled a terrorist that would not have happened.
Aug 29, 2014 8:40pm
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Manhattan Buckeye

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Aug 29, 2014 10:20 PM
superman;1648866 wrote:Correct me if I'm worng, but I believe he continued to get paid while in jail, if he had been properly labeled a terrorist that would not have happened.
You aren't wrong, he was compensated while in prison until the case developed through the proper channels.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/fort-hood-suspect-nidal-hasan-find-bank/story?id=11291442

Amazing to me that in the private sector the vast majority of employees can be terminated for any or no reason and all pay is halted immediately, but in our wonderful public sector this crap happens - and how this guy with a history of mental instability and red flags kept his job while thousands of officers are being laid off is a true mystery.
Aug 29, 2014 10:20pm
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Aug 30, 2014 8:21 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1648841 wrote:Agreed that according to the punishment, it doesn't matter.

What does matter was the administration's weak response, and it goes to credibility. It was one of the first tests of the Obama administration's stance on terror and the response was to downplay it. The following actions involve even more downplaying (aside from golf).

What is wrong with speaking the truth? Like everything about this administration, it is politicized to shield Obama from any criticism or responsibility and America appears to be sick with it. I don't expect much from our government, but honesty should be an easy one.
For guys like P-town (with all due respect of course) as long as the perpetrator receives his punishment, why dwell on the supposedly inconsequential rationale behind the punishment? I get that and understand his "the dude's getting punished so drop it and move on" sentimentality.

However, he ignores the reason why many of us are annoyed with the constant deflection of other issues surrounding the punishment. It's NOT that this piece of human filth will receive his punishment, it's the denial by this Administration that this was an act of terror by a radical Islamist for which Obama continues to receive a free pass by the media. It would be refreshing to see this inept Administration stop obfuscating reality for political expediency and political correctness.
Aug 30, 2014 8:21am
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Aug 30, 2014 9:58 AM
believer;1648920 wrote:It would be refreshing to see this inept Administration stop obfuscating reality for political expediency and political correctness.
LMAO....I gave up on that about 2 years into his first term when I realized all Obama cared about and knew was campaigning.

The guy actually makes an effort at NOT being a leader. This latest ISIS deal "I don't have a plan....I'm waiting for General XYZ to submit a plan"...or, in other words, it's never going to be Obama's plan (unless it succeeds, of course). Most leaders would simply say "we're working on a plan" without thinking twice about it - it's entirely natural. "I don't have a plan" is both a stupid and concerning thing to say, and almost certainly not an accidental slip.
Aug 30, 2014 9:58am
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Aug 30, 2014 8:37 PM
believer;1648920 wrote:For guys like P-town (with all due respect of course) as long as the perpetrator receives his punishment, why dwell on the supposedly inconsequential rationale behind the punishment? I get that and understand his "the dude's getting punished so drop it and move on" sentimentality.

However, he ignores the reason why many of us are annoyed with the constant deflection of other issues surrounding the punishment. It's NOT that this piece of human filth will receive his punishment, it's the denial by this Administration that this was an act of terror by a radical Islamist for which Obama continues to receive a free pass by the media. It would be refreshing to see this inept Administration stop obfuscating reality for political expediency and political correctness.
I am not ignoring it, it just does not matter to me. The policy on drones and targeted strikes, the expanded intelligence networks, and action with SOCOM trumps that concern.

I really do not get the argument the President is weak on terrorism when you compare the policies of this President to say Bush. Bush was hailed as a good leader against terrorism (at least on here), but Obama has largely used the same policies. In fact, he has expanded most of them. (Drones, surveillance, disruptions of networks).
There is not a big difference between the two Presidents, to the dismay of many liberals I would add.
Aug 30, 2014 8:37pm
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Aug 31, 2014 8:49 AM
ptown_trojans_1;1649158 wrote:I am not ignoring it, it just does not matter to me. The policy on drones and targeted strikes, the expanded intelligence networks, and action with SOCOM trumps that concern.

I really do not get the argument the President is weak on terrorism when you compare the policies of this President to say Bush. Bush was hailed as a good leader against terrorism (at least on here), but Obama has largely used the same policies. In fact, he has expanded most of them. (Drones, surveillance, disruptions of networks).
There is not a big difference between the two Presidents, to the dismay of many liberals I would add.
Suffice it to say that as much as Bush and Obama may appear similar in their overall policies, I have a hunch that with regard to labeling the Ft. Hood shooter as a terrorist as opposed to a "disgruntled worker" the Bush Administration would have called a spade a spade. I also believe Bush would have handled Obama's Benghazi disaster in a far, far different manner.

Six years into the current Administration and some of us are still obsessed with comparing Barry to "W" at every opportunity. Amazing.
Aug 31, 2014 8:49am
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Aug 31, 2014 9:10 AM
believer;1649278 wrote:
Six years into the current Administration and some of us are still obsessed with comparing Barry to "W" at every opportunity. Amazing.
This always brings the lulz. They say bush is the worst president of all time, yet they measure Obama to him any chance they get.
Aug 31, 2014 9:10am
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gut

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Aug 31, 2014 9:11 AM
believer;1649278 wrote: Six years into the current Administration and some of us are still obsessed with comparing Barry to "W" at every opportunity. Amazing.
Liberals wish Obama was only as bad as Bush.
Aug 31, 2014 9:11am
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Aug 31, 2014 11:02 AM
like_that;1649281 wrote:This always brings the lulz. They say bush is the worst president of all time, yet they measure Obama to him any chance they get.
It's all about this. It's a sad commentary for them, and will be scoffed and ridiculed in a generation's time.
Aug 31, 2014 11:02am
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Aug 31, 2014 11:29 AM
like_that;1649281 wrote:This always brings the lulz. They say bush is the worst president of all time, yet they measure Obama to him any chance they get.
That might explain the "to the dismay of many liberals" part at the end of the sentence that seems to have been ignored.
Aug 31, 2014 11:29am
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Aug 31, 2014 2:10 PM
"Obama has largely used the same policies."

He has a policy?

He's been on the golf course ignoring public opinion and criticism, .... and he sucks at golf.What can Obama possibly do or not do, that result in you criticizing him?

Can he at least do his damn job?
Aug 31, 2014 2:10pm
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Aug 31, 2014 2:46 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;1649367 wrote:"Obama has largely used the same policies."

He has a policy?

He's been on the golf course ignoring public opinion and criticism, .... and he sucks at golf.What can Obama possibly do or not do, that result in you criticizing him?

Can he at least do his damn job?
He's currently fundamentally transforming the United States of America. Where have you been?
Aug 31, 2014 2:46pm
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Sep 4, 2014 10:43 AM
All you need to know about the economy under Obama.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

The labor force participation rate has been in a steady decline since he took office.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-02/workforce-participation-at-36-year-low-even-as-more-jobs-beckon.html

People don't even want to work anymore, I wonder if that has anything to do with the 2 years of unemployment and the escalating social/welfare handouts taking away the will/drive to work?
Sep 4, 2014 10:43am
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Sep 4, 2014 11:09 AM
jmog;1650376 wrote:All you need to know about the economy under Obama.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

The labor force participation rate has been in a steady decline since he took office.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-02/workforce-participation-at-36-year-low-even-as-more-jobs-beckon.html

People don't even want to work anymore, I wonder if that has anything to do with the 2 years of unemployment and the escalating social/welfare handouts taking away the will/drive to work?
That's one helluva graph from the BLS. I fully expect an Obamabot to claim it's all the baby boomers retiring since Barry took his first Oath. If this were true, one would have to surmise those turning 18 have fallen off the planet. Hey... it can happen; just ask Malaysian Airlines.
Sep 4, 2014 11:09am
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jmog

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Sep 4, 2014 11:19 AM
BGFalcons82;1650396 wrote:That's one helluva graph from the BLS. I fully expect an Obamabot to claim it's all the baby boomers retiring since Barry took his first Oath. If this were true, one would have to surmise those turning 18 have fallen off the planet. Hey... it can happen; just ask Malaysian Airlines.
Retirees aren't counted in the labor force participation rate. So a million people could retire tomorrow and it wouldn't change the rate.

That's the way I understand it anyway.
Sep 4, 2014 11:19am
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gut

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Sep 4, 2014 11:48 AM
jmog;1650400 wrote:Retirees aren't counted in the labor force participation rate. So a million people could retire tomorrow and it wouldn't change the rate.

That's the way I understand it anyway.
Actually, I believe it would increase the participation rate. They are counted while working, so if they retire tomorrow the overall labor pool drops by 1M while number of jobs remains the same (assuming the employer fills the vacancy).
Sep 4, 2014 11:48am
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Sep 4, 2014 12:31 PM
gut;1650415 wrote:Actually, I believe it would increase the participation rate. They are counted while working, so if they retire tomorrow the overall labor pool drops by 1M while number of jobs remains the same (assuming the employer fills the vacancy).
That's true if the employer fills the vacancy with someone who is currently unemployed. If they just let the person retire and don't fill, then the rate doesn't change.
Sep 4, 2014 12:31pm