Cleveland Buck;1708098 wrote:What more do you think there could be from an oil pipeline? They aren't building a hospital that cures cancer. That's like asking what would the pros be if the government tore down your house and neighborhood and built a Walmart there. The pros are there would be another shopping option for the local consumers and jobs for people to run it. It isn't some great gift to society that should overrule someone's right to their property.

SportsAndLady;1708101 wrote:I wasn't trying to be a dick it was a genuine question. I just can't believe there is all this hoopla about something that could bring a few temp jobs, but I guess that's American politics for you.

SportsAndLady;1708083 wrote:That can't be the only pro

QuakerOats;1708069 wrote:http://keystone-xl.com/five-reasons-why-keystone-xl-benefits-the-u-s/

http://keystone-xl.com/benefits-of-keystone-xl-oil-pipeline-us-jobs-economic-benefits-energy-security-environmental-responsibility-pipeline-safety-transcanada/

http://buildkxlnow.org/


And not only all that, but snubbing our trusted friend and ally to the north is yet another major embarrassment brought to you by the community activist.

QuakerOats;1708090 wrote:Just giving you some of the pros. Not to mention it is safer to transfer it by pipeline as opposed to rail (i.e. see WV train wreck last week), and the fact that we already have over 2 million miles of pipelines in the US which function well, so what is another several hundred miles? The fact is, it has been turned into a platform for the radical left-wing earth worshipers, of which this administration maintains a full-fledged membership.

BGFalcons82;1708157 wrote:These same tree-hugging save-the-snail-darter hippies care less about saving the tens of thousands of birds murdered by their beloved windmills every year than the wildlife "threatened" by a pipe.

FatHobbit;1708227 wrote:There are also an estimated 600k-900k bats killed by windmills every year.

Dr Winston O'Boogie;1708234 wrote:This issue is ridiculous. There is no reason this pipeline shouldn't be built. It's not even worth talking about. As Quaker's map shows, there's pipelines everywhere. The market is going continue to require oil to be transported to the Gulf to be processed. The cheapest and safest way to do that is to do it via pipeline. Obama is making a mistake by making this a political issue.

rydawg5;1708232 wrote:Serious question: What's the value of such a big bat population? Do bats do anything good for us?

rydawg5;1708253 wrote:Granted, I come from a place in my life where I used to say "Kerry is a douche vote for Boosh"

But, what is the issue you have with making sure our water, food, air quality is at a high standard? In general, Shouldn't we make sure our profiting isn't causing cancer or death to humans before we give the green light on things? Is that what you are referring to as "Tree Hugging Hippies" or are there more trivial things that have happened in the past to cause you to mock them so heavily?

rydawg5;1708232 wrote:Serious question: What's the value of such a big bat population? Do bats do anything good for us?

rydawg5;1708253 wrote:Granted, I come from a place in my life where I used to say "Kerry is a douche vote for Boosh"

But, what is the issue you have with making sure our water, food, air quality is at a high standard? In general, Shouldn't we make sure our profiting isn't causing cancer or death to humans before we give the green light on things? Is that what you are referring to as "Tree Hugging Hippies" or are there more trivial things that have happened in the past to cause you to mock them so heavily?

sleeper;1708267 wrote:Please tell me what having another oil pipeline, likely built with the most advanced technology and highest safety features has anything to do with water, food, and air quality? Liberals are taking an extremely low risk project to the environment and blowing them up to be high risk high likelihood for political gain. It's embarrassing that people are so dumb.

rydawg5;1708268 wrote:I tried to word the question in a way that would avoid this type of reply.

sleeper;1708272 wrote:Your question is shit. You phrased it the way the typical liberal phrases it; establishing an opinion that everyone agrees with(clean air, quality food, etc.), pretend the other side doesn't want that(what is THE issue with not wanting that), while taking the moral high ground on an issue that is entirely irrelevant to the conversation. It's shit. The reality is, anything you do can and will have risks/cons/negatives/costs but it will also have benefits. You weigh the costs and benefits.

Again, your question is absolute shit. Stop regurgitating talking points.

rydawg5;1708283 wrote:My question was intended to understand his usage of "Tree Hugging Hippies".

Sorry I didn't word my question to wkfan to your liking. I'm happy you have brought yourself into the equation of the question with hostility and accusations that I am a liberal.

I do appreciate that.

sleeper;1708285 wrote:What don't you understand about tree hugging hippies? These people are morons.

QuakerOats;1708090 wrote:Just giving you some of the pros. Not to mention it is safer to transfer it by pipeline as opposed to rail (i.e. see WV train wreck last week), and the fact that we already have over 2 million miles of pipelines in the US which function well, so what is another several hundred miles? The fact is, it has been turned into a platform for the radical left-wing earth worshipers, of which this administration maintains a full-fledged membership.

rydawg5;1708292 wrote:Without knowing anything idiotic they they've done off the top of my head, I don't see what is so bad about having different values in society and using our government system to try to further those goals in a legal process.

Being Louder/Meaner doesn't make your stance more or less right.

rydawg5;1708232 wrote:Serious question: What's the value of such a big bat population? Do bats do anything good for us?

Dr Winston O'Boogie;1708234 wrote:This issue is ridiculous. There is no reason this pipeline shouldn't be built. It's not even worth talking about. As Quaker's map shows, there's pipelines everywhere. The market is going continue to require oil to be transported to the Gulf to be processed. The cheapest and safest way to do that is to do it via pipeline. Obama is making a mistake by making this a political issue.