NBA Finals: LeBron and the Heat vs. Dirk and the Mavericks

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Jun 8, 2011 12:01 AM
chicago510;794045 wrote:Come on. MJ averaged 33+ in the playoffs. Whoever scores the most points wins right? Heat needed his scoring, not his deferring to Haslem and Miller.

I just said he needs to be more aggressive, but anyone who thinks scoring is the only thing that matters doesn't know shit about basketball
Jun 8, 2011 12:01am
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Hb31187;794051 wrote:Run a pick for him and he can get to the hoop when he wants to. And either finish or get fouled. Nobody in the league can stop lebron from penetrating if he wants to

in case you didn't notice every time they ran pick and roll for him they trapped him and pushed him out to the sideline
Jun 8, 2011 12:01am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:02 AM
robj55;794050 wrote:no he wouldnt, remember Kobe's laker teams after Shaq left, 8 seed every year in the playoffs and bounced in the first round, not easy when you're playing with Kwame Brown, Luke Walton and Smush Parker

lebron and the crew beat up on teams the entire regular season, and a playoff series or two. Then, when everyones watching, Lebron disappears. If he doesn't disappear, the Cavs would continue to win. Put Kobe in there, he wouldn't disappear.
Jun 8, 2011 12:02am
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robj55;794053 wrote:in case you didn't notice every time they ran pick and roll for him they trapped him and pushed him out to the sideline

The person pushing him out is Tyson Chandler? should be able to beat him around the corner even if he does try to stretch out the pick and roll. But he really just didnt look aggressive at all the whole night. He kinda looked like he had no interest in the game (which i dont relaly understand)
Jun 8, 2011 12:02am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:03 AM
robj55;794052 wrote:I just said he needs to be more aggressive, but anyone who thinks scoring is the only thing that matters doesn't know shit about basketball

But LeBron needs to average more than 18 ppg in this series for them to win.
Jun 8, 2011 12:03am
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robj55;794046 wrote:no one in the league can score at will, these are elite athletes and coaches that game plan to take away your strengths. Wade and Bosh have better matchups and they are getting the shots, Lebron does need to be more aggressive however for them to close this thing out
He was being guarded by Jason Terry and Stevenson (both much smaller than Lebron). Are you telling me he can't score at will against those guys??

James in the 4th quarter tonight: 0-1 FG 2 rebs, 2 To's 0 points are freakin kidding me? 1 shot? he played the entire 4th quarter.
Jun 8, 2011 12:05am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:08 AM
chicago510;794059 wrote:But LeBron needs to average more than 18 ppg in this series for them to win.

i agree
Jun 8, 2011 12:08am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:08 AM
LeBron needs to be more assertive on the offensive end. It's fine to facilitate, and he should continue to do that to an extent, but he needs to score the damn basketball. If he does, they go back to Miami up 3-2 and close it out. If he doesn't, they're down 3-2 and in serious danger of giving the series away. End of story.
Jun 8, 2011 12:08am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:09 AM
pippen would try to make his clone sound better than he is
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Skyhook79;794065 wrote:He was being guarded by Jason Terry and Stevenson (both much smaller than Lebron). Are you telling me he can't score at will against those guys??

James in the 4th quarter tonight: 0-1 FG 2 rebs, 2 To's 0 points are freakin kidding me? 1 shot? he played the entire 4th quarter.

again, they ran pick and roll and got the ball out of his hands, 80% of the sets they are running are for wade anyway, who has a favorable match up and has had it rolling
Jun 8, 2011 12:09am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:10 AM
LBJ 9-25....Game 3&4
Wade 25-41....Game 3&4
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ironman02;794073 wrote:LeBron needs to be more assertive on the offensive end. It's fine to facilitate, and he should continue to do that to an extent, but he needs to score the damn basketball. If he does, they go back to Miami up 3-2 and close it out. If he doesn't, they're down 3-2 and in serious danger of giving the series away. End of story.

i agree, he has to get more shots and get a rythm, be more assertive even if he has to force
Jun 8, 2011 12:10am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:14 AM
robj55;794079 wrote:again, they ran pick and roll and got the ball out of his hands, 80% of the sets they are running are for wade anyway, who has a favorable match up and has had it rolling

lol deshawn "soulja boy" stevenson was guarding bron
Jun 8, 2011 12:14am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:14 AM
Dirk 44 pts in the 4th quarter in 4 games

Lebron 9 points in the 4th quarter in 4 games
Jun 8, 2011 12:14am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:16 AM
2quik4u;794085 wrote:lol deshawn "soulja boy" stevenson was guarding bron

then it's the coaching staff's fault for running high pick and roll and allowing him to be doubled, clear out a side and let him work
Jun 8, 2011 12:16am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:16 AM
Stevenson has Abe Lincoln tattooed on his neck. He sucks.
Jun 8, 2011 12:16am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:17 AM
@BeauBishop: this via @andy_baskin MJ's finals pts 36 33 29 28 30 39 39 26 32 46 33 31 42 44 55 41 33 28 29 36 23 26 22 31 38 26 22 38 38 33 37 24 34 28 45


Don't see any 8's in there.
Jun 8, 2011 12:17am
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Skyhook79;794086 wrote:Dirk 44 pts in the 4th quarter in 4 games

Lebron 9 points in the 4th quarter in 4 games

dirk has been huge no doubt, but he is there only option even when he is shooting poorly like tonight when he had a 1-11 stretch
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chicago510;794094 wrote:@BeauBishop: this via @andy_baskin MJ's finals pts 36 33 29 28 30 39 39 26 32 46 33 31 42 44 55 41 33 28 29 36 23 26 22 31 38 26 22 38 38 33 37 24 34 28 45


Don't see any 8's in there.

who's trying to compare the two players?
Jun 8, 2011 12:17am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:18 AM
robj55;794095 wrote:dirk has been huge no doubt, but he is there only option even when he is shooting poorly like tonight when he had a 1-11 stretch
Dirk is undoubtedly there best option. I wouldn't say he's their only option, though.
Jun 8, 2011 12:18am
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robj55;794095 wrote:dirk has been huge no doubt, but he is there only option even when he is shooting poorly like tonight when he had a 1-11 stretch

made it when it mattered
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Jun 8, 2011 12:19 AM
robj55;794096 wrote:who's trying to compare the two players?

Not saying you, but a lot of people after the ECF were. I just cannot believe he put up an 8 point performance. He is WAY too talented to ever put up 8 while deferring to Haslem, Miller, Bosh, etc.
Jun 8, 2011 12:19am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:20 AM
2quik4u;794100 wrote:made it when it mattered

where did I say he didn't?
Jun 8, 2011 12:20am
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Jun 8, 2011 12:20 AM
Saving my thoughts on the LeBron James disappearance for tomorrow @10E, ESPN2. Can't wait for Delonte West Memorial excuses from his camp.

http://twitter.com/#!/RealSkipBayless/status/78314002899402752
Jun 8, 2011 12:20am