stlouiedipalma;927399 wrote:The "Value voters straw poll"?? You mean to tell me that "Value voters" endorsed the guy who wants to legalize drugs? Obviously their values have changed!
stlouiedipalma;927399 wrote:The "Value voters straw poll"?? You mean to tell me that "Value voters" endorsed the guy who wants to legalize drugs? Obviously their values have changed!
O-Trap;927423 wrote:And by "legalize drugs," you mean "give each respective state the right to make its own drug laws."
Allowing states their constitutionally sanctioned freedoms seems like a pretty good value to have.
It may be a shame but don't get too excited. Cain, Bachmann, and a couple of others are relative newcomers to the "Wannabe POTUS Club". Paul has tried several times and keeps coming up waaaaaayyyyy short. My guess this is why he gets minimal coverage.Cleveland Buck;927371 wrote:Ron Paul wins the CPAC, California, this one, and ties for first in Iowa and can't get any positive coverage. It is just a shame is all.
It does to any student of the Constitution.O-Trap;927423 wrote:And by "legalize drugs," you mean "give each respective state the right to make its own drug laws."
Allowing states their constitutionally sanctioned freedoms seems like a pretty good value to have.
Skyhook79;927528 wrote:California agrees.
Yes, but we've never let that silly document get in the way of being parented by the Fed before, so why would we now?believer;927543 wrote:It does to any student of the Constitution.
You are forgetting the debate that took place a couple days before the Florida Straw Poll. That is when Cain really started gaining momentum. There were a couple moments in that debate where I knew Cain would be picking up a lot more support. Before he got a bunch of media coverage following the straw poll win, he was already rising in the polls(Zogby had a poll with him leading all candidates). The Straw poll win was huge for Mr. Cain because there were plenty of people who liked him, but didn't call him their candidate because they didn't think he could win. That win made them think he did have a shot. The Florida straw poll got more coverage than many others because it was an official state straw poll and followed the Florida debate where all the candidates participated. Why doesn't Paul receive as much coverage? His rabid followers have allowed him to win several straw polls, but those straw polls are not perceived to be as important. He has run for president before and it could be some members of the media do not wish to deal with him. I know Neal Boortz tried to interview him in New Hampshire back in 2008 and Paul rudely declined. To get coverage, Paul needs to be willing to sit down with people he doesn't like and or agree with.Cleveland Buck;927371 wrote:Herman Cain was a bottom feeder until he won a "meaningless straw poll", and after a week of nonstop positive media coverage he is rising in the polls. That straw poll and the ensuing coverage was the ONLY reason for his rise. Ron Paul wins the CPAC, California, this one, and ties for first in Iowa and can't get any positive coverage. It is just a shame is all.
Pretending that O'Reilly is actually a journalist is ridiculous.Skyhook79;927672 wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/2011/09/08/jesse-watters-confronts-ron-paul-about-avoiding-factor
So Fox News is ignoring Paul???
So what? He would get a good audience to get some of his ideas there. Herman Cain was on Lawrence O'donnells Program on MSNBC. O'donnell asked Cain all sorts of ridiculous gotcha question. Cain made him look like a fool and was able to get some exposure to a small audience that may not otherwise get the chance to hear him. Plus O'donnell made such a complete ass of himself the interview got national attention.I Wear Pants;927723 wrote:Pretending that O'Reilly is actually a journalist is ridiculous.
Not wanting to go on the #1 rated Cable News show is ridiculous. Don't cry about not getting any coverage if your not willing to go on the #1 Show with the most viewers to get your message out. Herman Cain doesn't back down from anyone.I Wear Pants;927723 wrote:Pretending that O'Reilly is actually a journalist is ridiculous.
Didn't Bill Clinton while lobbying Ted Kennedy to support Hillary during the democrat primary say "a few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee".stlouiedipalma;927668 wrote:Do you think for one bleeding minute that Herman Cain is going to have enough support to get nominated? C'mon, we're talking about the Republicans here, where a black man's place is either writing a check or serving in the hospitality suite.
OLITICSmajorspark;927754 wrote:So what? He would get a good audience to get some of his ideas there. Herman Cain was on Lawrence O'donnells Program on MSNBC. O'donnell asked Cain all sorts of ridiculous gotcha question. Cain made him look like a fool and was able to get some exposure to a small audience that may not otherwise get the chance to hear him. Plus O'donnell made such a complete ass of himself the interview got national attention.
These are both my points. Paul got himself into that situation by complaining about lack of coverage and then not going on the show. But it wouldn't have helped him anyway because O'Reilly doesn't let anyone talk if what they're saying is something he disagrees with so he wouldn't have let Ron Paul talk much.Skyhook79;927769 wrote:Not wanting to go on the #1 rated Cable News show is ridiculous. Don't cry about not getting any coverage if your not willing to go on the #1 Show with the most viewers to get your message out. Herman Cain doesn't back down from anyone.
Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.I Wear Pants;927983 wrote:But it wouldn't have helped him anyway because O'Reilly doesn't let anyone talk if what they're saying is something he disagrees with so he wouldn't have let Ron Paul talk much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ilqGVOh4YO-Trap;928042 wrote:Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.
Really not sure how it would have gotten him more media attention when this would have been the result.
I you want to be president and you can't handle O'reilly well then maybe you should not be president.O-Trap;928042 wrote:Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.
Really not sure how it would have gotten him more media attention when this would have been the result.
:thumbup:majorspark;928125 wrote:I you want to be president and you can't handle O'reilly well then maybe you should not be president.
majorspark;927754 wrote:So what? He would get a good audience to get some of his ideas there. Herman Cain was on Lawrence O'donnells Program on MSNBC. O'donnell asked Cain all sorts of ridiculous gotcha question. Cain made him look like a fool and was able to get some exposure to a small audience that may not otherwise get the chance to hear him. Plus O'donnell made such a complete ass of himself the interview got national attention.
Skyhook79;927769 wrote:Not wanting to go on the #1 rated Cable News show is ridiculous. Don't cry about not getting any coverage if your not willing to go on the #1 Show with the most viewers to get your message out. Herman Cain doesn't back down from anyone.
O'Reilly doesn't disagree with pretty much everything Cain says either. He does with Paul.Skyhook79;928110 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ilqGVOh4Y
O'Reilly didn't stop Cain from making his points. Ron Paul doesn't want to answer tough questions about his policies.
Skyhook79;928110 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ilqGVOh4Y
O'Reilly didn't stop Cain from making his points. Ron Paul doesn't want to answer tough questions about his policies.
majorspark;928125 wrote:I you want to be president and you can't handle O'reilly well then maybe you should not be president.
BGFalcons82;928164 wrote::thumbup:
Game.
Set.
Match.
Cleveland Buck;928224 wrote:What does turning down an interview with O' Reilly have to do with media coverage? The other candidates don't have to go on O' Reilly to get face time. He was in New Hampshire the day they invited him. O' Reilly doesn't let him talk anyway. He was on there during the last campaign and Obama got a much better interview from O' Reilly than Paul got with Bill shouting over everything he said. Why reschedule whatever he was doing to go on there and not get a word in?
Bingo. When you're pitching to your own team, you tend to lob them over the middle of the plate more often.I Wear Pants;928263 wrote:O'Reilly doesn't disagree with pretty much everything Cain says either. He does with Paul.
