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ONE LEG disadvantage in life, advantage on the wrestling mat?

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ohiowrestlingchamp

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Mar 21, 2011 1:28 PM
Is wrestling with one leg an advantage???
I was watching the NCAA finals again and notice that although being a huge!!!! disadvantage in life having only one leg proves time and again to be a minor advantage in wrestling. The wrestlers weigh alot less, and are built like much higher weight class kids. If you combine this with athleticism you have the perfect storm for a great wrestler.
Mar 21, 2011 1:28pm
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iGranby

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Mar 21, 2011 5:08 PM
Dude would easily be a 65 if he had his other leg, his arm was as big as McDonough's head, haha
Mar 21, 2011 5:08pm
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said_aouita

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Mar 21, 2011 8:56 PM
I doubt a NCAA title is worth losing a leg.
Mar 21, 2011 8:56pm
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Bitterrunner-up

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Mar 22, 2011 10:12 AM
If I only knew this back in the day, I would have gladly had my leg removed. Then I'm sure I would have become instantly unbeatable.
Mar 22, 2011 10:12am
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lowsingle174

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Mar 22, 2011 10:55 AM
Really?
Mar 22, 2011 10:55am
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cruiser_96

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Mar 22, 2011 10:56 AM
...well you should. Because I'm laying it on pretty thick.
Mar 22, 2011 10:56am
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cruiser_96

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Mar 22, 2011 10:56 AM
Quiet, informer174!
Mar 22, 2011 10:56am
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Gblock

Mar 22, 2011 11:41 AM
how does he start his matches?...standing on one leg or does he start every match on the ground? serious question...all the highlights only show action where he is pinning someone.
Mar 22, 2011 11:41am
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hasbeen

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Mar 22, 2011 12:09 PM
Gblock;720747 wrote:how does he start his matches?...standing on one leg or does he start every match on the ground? serious question...all the highlights only show action where he is pinning someone.
He starts on his foot.
Mar 22, 2011 12:09pm
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cruiser_96

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Mar 22, 2011 12:11 PM
He starts with his foot on the line and his hands as close to the mat as possible. Once the whistle blows, he "crouches". Yes... Just like a hidden dragon.

He may coil. I think that's the term the ESPN guys were using.
Mar 22, 2011 12:11pm
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Mar 22, 2011 12:34 PM
Robles stated himself that he has a distinct advantage. He doesnt look at it as a disadvantage.
Mar 22, 2011 12:34pm
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Lou Demas

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Mar 22, 2011 1:35 PM
As much as people want to say Robles has a strength advantage due to his upper body size, I think they are overlooking the fact that a good majority of a top wrestler's power is derived from pushing off on your feet. Robles learn how to wrestle for his body type. No different than a long lanky wrestler or a really short wrestler learning how wrestle for there body type. What is exceptional in Robles case, is that there are a lot of short powerful wrestler's and long lanky wrestler's that a wrestler with that body type a wrestler can learn from. Robles started wrestling in the 9th grade and had to really invent a style that worked for him, with himself being the only person to invent a style that would work for him. What Robles did was amazing! and it is a lesson for all wrestler's, study the sport and find out what works for you in relationship to your strengths and weaknesses.
Mar 22, 2011 1:35pm
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GregHines

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Mar 22, 2011 5:48 PM
Not only was he a great wrestler, but seemd to be a really great young man.

Something to thinnk about, I though as I watched him, was how would you wrestle him to beat him? The guys I watched all crouched down low. Any thoughts on how to beat him? For sure you do not want his iron claws (hands with unbelievable grip) on your wrists.
Mar 22, 2011 5:48pm
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clickclickboom

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Mar 24, 2011 1:16 PM
It is an advantage everyone knows that, and this isn't one of those phony advantages either like what they were trying to say about the 400 runner without feet.
Mar 24, 2011 1:16pm
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Jmar25

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Mar 24, 2011 7:57 PM
I agree with the advantage. Takes the opposing wrestler right out of his game from the neutral position. Kjar had a good game plan really but couldn't score from the bottom in the semi's. The upper body strength is a giant advantage. He would easily be a 165. His riding isn't too impressive if you consider his hand strength and just being able completely tie up the hands and arms and make that a non-factor. If you can tie those up as easy as he does it doesn't take too much hip pressure to keep the bottom guy on the mat. The amazing thing is his ability to return standing opponents to the mat. Watching him just break Kjar in the semi's was crazy. Kjar could get to his feet but was brought back down or would go out of bounds every time. That was the most amazing thing I've seen. His turn style with out the one leg was also very impressive.

I missed the first two periods and half of the last in the championship match but did anyone take top on him? I would think if you could keep it a one point match and run a nice claw and spiral you could keep him pretty flat and get the riding time. You have to point that kid on top would be my best guess on how to beat him. No points on the feet and no turns and you got a chance especially if you can manage to get away on bottom.
Mar 24, 2011 7:57pm
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Lou Demas

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Mar 24, 2011 9:00 PM
In general the leg is approximately 9-10% of the weight of the entire body. In this case assuming no other significant medical issues, the weight of the entire leg would be around 15 pounds.

In order for Robles to easily be 165lbs with leg, he would have has to cut down from 150Lbs. to 125lbs.. I Just don't think he made a 25lbs cut at nationals.Also there is nothing stopping his 2 legged opponents from working on their grip strength.

I just can't help but wonder What Mrs. Robles thinks when people say her so son has the advantage over his 2 legged opponents? I wonder if she looks back to when he started wrestling in the 9th grade and lost most of his matches and thought to herself '' Yes, Son The Advantage Is Yours!''
Mar 24, 2011 9:00pm
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Mar 24, 2011 11:00 PM
Not trying to sound like a dick, because I certainly respect and admire what he did. But I do think it gives him an advantage (i've never wrestled). My friend who was a very good wrestler thinks the same.
Mar 24, 2011 11:00pm
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cradle3

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Mar 25, 2011 10:37 AM
I wonder who had the disadvantage coming out of the womb?

This guy has a disadvantage, that through years of hard work & style transformation he turned into an advantage. It’s all perspective & props to him for being innovative.

Did Nick Ackerman have an advantage?
Did Kyle Maynard have an advantage?
Did Dustin Carter have an advantage?

No, they made the best out of their situations & were successful in their attempt to form a creative style.

If Robles were our top guy in free, would the Olympic committee say “No” you can’t compete? Would he only be permitted to wrestle in the special Olympics?

It just bothers me that there are so many out there that say “he has an advantage”. I just keep coming back to – who had the advantage/disadvantage when they were born.

If he hadn't acheived what he did - would we even be having this conversation?
Mar 25, 2011 10:37am
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eastwood

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Mar 27, 2011 11:25 PM
i think he has an advantage. its pretty hard to find a practice partner with one leg. nobody can prepare to wrestle him. its a shame he has one leg and im sure everybody agrees with that, but come on, when it comes to wrestling he has an advantage.
Mar 27, 2011 11:25pm
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Bitterrunner-up

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Mar 28, 2011 8:25 AM
I also think Jordan Burroughs has an "unfair advantage" of being way faster and stronger then everyone he wrestled this year. Also, clearly Kellen Russell has a better "gyroscope" then his competition.
Mar 28, 2011 8:25am
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1_beast

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Mar 28, 2011 2:45 PM
Bubba Jenkins ability to kill the Hennessy was impressive...just sayin.
Mar 28, 2011 2:45pm
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Bitterrunner-up

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Mar 28, 2011 2:54 PM
...And hit superducks from the crowd.
Mar 28, 2011 2:54pm
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Cthelites

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Mar 29, 2011 9:15 AM
Lou, I think the leg only portion % is correct, but you got to factor the largest heaviest muscle is also missing.
The but cheek or glute and hip bone would weight another 10lbs at least.
Mar 29, 2011 9:15am