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May 27, 2011 9:54 AM
wildcats20;782994 wrote:Absolutely.

I mean look at what Bron is doing with his jumper now. It was broke as I am when he first came in the League and now it's becoming one of the more consistent ones.

Crazy to think he's only 26.
May 27, 2011 9:54am
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May 27, 2011 9:56 AM
Commander of Awesome;782995 wrote:Same could be said for Jason Kidd. He had ZERO jump shot when he came into the league.

Exactly. If there's any aspect of an NBA player's game that is easiest to add, IMO it's a jumper. With the ability to work with shooting coaches in the off-season, it's not crazy to see someone shoot really poorly one year and much better the next.

That being said, I really want to see Rondo learn how to hit a jumper. I would enjoy watching him play more than almost any other player in the league if he can score off his J.
May 27, 2011 9:56am
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May 27, 2011 10:32 AM
if I see COA type "lolpwned" one more time I might throw up. How old are you? good lord.
May 27, 2011 10:32am
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May 27, 2011 2:54 PM
lhslep134;782987 wrote:Nope, not at all. The reason they traded Green was to get playing time for Harden.

With Green in the lineup, who do you sit between Ibaka, Collison, WB, Harden, Durant?

Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Green, Ibaka...

Jeff Green is a Forward, so I'm not sure why he'd interfere with Harden. They traded Green to bring in some interior toughness. The line up I posted above would have been a much better line-up facing the Mavs.

Jeff Green at 6'9 can score and create his own shots, plus he's athletic enough to defend Dirk and give him problems defensively.
May 27, 2011 2:54pm
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May 27, 2011 4:51 PM
Clever...


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May 27, 2011 4:51pm
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May 27, 2011 5:39 PM
grodt;783524 wrote:Clever...


http://twitpic.com/53a6ot

My friend's buddy designed it.
May 27, 2011 5:39pm
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May 27, 2011 6:40 PM
grodt;783524 wrote:Clever...


http://twitpic.com/53a6ot

I'm ordering one. Only 22 bucks, Ive wasted my money on dumber shit
May 27, 2011 6:40pm
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May 28, 2011 10:09 AM
hoops23;783446 wrote:Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Green, Ibaka...

Jeff Green is a Forward, .


Kind of. He's a SF, definitely not a PF. He can't guard the bigs downlow and they traded him so they could shore up defensively downlow while getting more playing time for Harden, whose minutes were being eaten up by Green. Harden was averaging around 22 min/g before the trade and about 31 after it.
May 28, 2011 10:09am
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May 28, 2011 2:02 PM
Chris Broussard just tweeted that the Pistons, TWolves and Cavs are discussing a trade which where Detroit would send us Rip and the 8 pick which we would absorb with the TPE. We would then send the 4 and 8 to the TWolves for the #2 pick. He says that we would then take Irving and Williams.
May 28, 2011 2:02pm
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May 28, 2011 2:04 PM
grodt;784003 wrote:Chris Broussard just tweeted that the Pistons, TWolves and Cavs are discussing a trade which where Detroit would send us Rip and the 8 pick which we would absorb with the TPE. We would then send the 4 and 8 to the TWolves for the #2 pick. He says that we would then take Irving and Williams.

Hmm pretty interesting. I much rather take the pistons draft pick next year.
May 28, 2011 2:04pm
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May 28, 2011 2:24 PM
grodt;784003 wrote:Chris Broussard just tweeted that the Pistons, TWolves and Cavs are discussing a trade which where Detroit would send us Rip and the 8 pick which we would absorb with the TPE. We would then send the 4 and 8 to the TWolves for the #2 pick. He says that we would then take Irving and Williams.

I would enjoy that. IMO the only 2 sure things in the draft (not sure thing like perennial all star but at the very least a good player) are Irving and Williams
May 28, 2011 2:24pm
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May 28, 2011 2:41 PM
grodt;784003 wrote:Chris Broussard just tweeted that the Pistons, TWolves and Cavs are discussing a trade which where Detroit would send us Rip and the 8 pick which we would absorb with the TPE. We would then send the 4 and 8 to the TWolves for the #2 pick. He says that we would then take Irving and Williams.

Do it do it do it!!!!
May 28, 2011 2:41pm
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May 28, 2011 3:39 PM
I'd rather have Kanter than Williams.
May 28, 2011 3:39pm
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May 28, 2011 4:25 PM
Cavs are doing all the right things to rebuild their team imo. Let's not forget this deal http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/trade_100710.html.

Hopefully something makes the Heat falter from 2013-2017, especially when the Cavs are using their first rd picks.
May 28, 2011 4:25pm
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May 28, 2011 4:45 PM
If they get that deal done with the Pistons, why wouldn't they just keep the pick? 3 top 10 picks would be huge
May 28, 2011 4:45pm
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May 28, 2011 4:55 PM
I'd rather just keep the 1, 4, and 8 pick. Irving is really the only thing I care about in this draft, but why not get 2 other young players from him to grow with? Is Williams even a sure thing?
May 28, 2011 4:55pm
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May 28, 2011 5:09 PM
derek bomar;783038 wrote:if I see COA type "lolpwned" one more time I might throw up. How old are you? good lord.

You and me both. I am guessing that he is either in high school or in his 5th or 6th year of college. My first guess was high school because of his inability to come up with an original thought (he usually bickers with somebody from his all-Pwn team or he cheerleads other posters who have a similar posting style). However, I find it hard to believe that he is still in HS with the amount of time he wastes on here. He's got to be in college.
May 28, 2011 5:09pm
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May 28, 2011 5:11 PM
sleeper;784102 wrote:I'd rather just keep the 1, 4, and 8 pick. Irving is really the only thing I care about in this draft, but why not get 2 other young players from him to grow with? Is Williams even a sure thing?

My thoughts exactly. Most drafts are a crapshoot and while Williams is a great talent, there is no guarantee he'll be good. Take whoever falls to 4 and then hope you get lucky at number 8. With 3 top 10 picks, odds suggest that at least one of those guys will be good. If all 3 are good, then the Cavs might be back in contention sooner rather than later
May 28, 2011 5:11pm
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May 28, 2011 5:21 PM
they already have 4 picks, 5 is a ton. With the trade they made with Boston roster spots are already limited.

There is a great chance they trade the #2 pick in round 2 to move up into late 1st round anyway which would still give them 3 first round picks.
May 28, 2011 5:21pm
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May 28, 2011 5:21 PM
wildcats20;783548 wrote:My friend's buddy designed it.

cool story, bro
May 28, 2011 5:21pm
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May 28, 2011 5:22 PM
dave;784106 wrote:they already have 4 picks, 5 is a ton. With the trade they made with Boston roster spots are already limited.

There is a great chance they trade the #2 pick in round 2 to move up into late 1st round anyway which would still give them 3 first round picks.

Yeah, I have the feeling Chris Grant isn't going to be shy about wheeling & dealing.
May 28, 2011 5:22pm
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May 28, 2011 5:25 PM
dave;784106 wrote:they already have 4 picks, 5 is a ton. With the trade they made with Boston roster spots are already limited.

Not to sound like a jerk, but so what? Just keep improving your roster whenever you can. Besides there should be a large difference in talent between the guy they get with the 8th pick and the 12th guy on their roster currently.

They werent a good team last year either. So I'm not sure why they would want to protect roster spots for many of the players on the team anyways?
May 28, 2011 5:25pm
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May 28, 2011 5:27 PM
sleeper;784102 wrote:I'd rather just keep the 1, 4, and 8 pick. Irving is really the only thing I care about in this draft, but why not get 2 other young players from him to grow with? Is Williams even a sure thing?

I'm kinda on the fence with this one. I'm not a huge fan of using the entire TPE to move up 2 spots in the draft, especially if either Kanter or Williams is still there at 4. Seems like alot to give up for a "tweener"
May 28, 2011 5:27pm
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May 28, 2011 5:27 PM
jordo212000;784109 wrote:
They werent a good team last year either. So I'm not sure why they would want to protect roster spots for many of the players on the team anyways?

No player on this current roster should really be safe.
May 28, 2011 5:27pm
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May 28, 2011 5:32 PM
BR1986FB;784112 wrote:No player on this current roster should really be safe.

I was disappointed with Hickson's progression this year, but I think he is probably still a key piece, and then I was very impressed with Ramon Sessions. Shouldn't be a starter for them (especially if they draft Irving) and would be ideal as a Jamal Crawford type off the bench
May 28, 2011 5:32pm