Did I ever argue that they weren't floppers? lol way to get your panties in a bunch over a player that isn't even on your "team."

No, but you did label Bosh a pussy and used his flop as proof. Would you agree then that Varejao is a pussy? Is Bosh on your "team"? You have had your panties in a bunch over him all year. I am looking forward to your spin.

karen lotz;691708 wrote:No, but you did label Bosh a pussy and used his flop as proof. Would you agree then that Varejao is a pussy? Is Bosh on your "team"? You have had your panties in a bunch over him all year. I am looking forward to your spin.

What spin is there? I argued from the beginning that he is a pussy, and this is further proof that he is a pussy. If anyone is trying to spin anything it is you lol. You brought up a Cleveland player which had nothing to do with Bosh, thus nothing to do with the argument. If you had no idea who my team was would you bring up andy and his flopping? Probably not. GTFO with this spin shit. Pot meet kettle. And for the record i am not a fan of Andy's flopping bullshit either, he does come off as a pussy when he does it, but once again what does this have to do with Bosh being a pussy? I am looking forward to your next fail.

osu45804;691657 wrote:Okay I've had a day/night to think about it and try to let it soak in and well I've decided.... that I still HATE Danny Ainge lol -- I love the addition of Jeff Green, having someone who can score like him off the bench will definitely help and a much improved "3" to come off the bench than Marquis Daniels but we have no big men and hopefully Nenad Krstic can prove me wrong. And as far as the possible buyouts... Troy Murphy, Dan Gadzuric, Rasual Butler,Morris Peterson,Anthony Parker,Jason Kapono and Rip Hamilton are rumored to be bought out ... Leon Powe is rumored to want to come back to Boston but I haven't heard anything on him in regards to his recovery process... Any Cavs fans know if he was scheduled to come back anytime soon?

You dont want to count on Leon Powe to help your frontcourt out. The Cavs gave him a shot but his knee injury was just too much.

I dont see AP gettin bought up, just doesnt make sense at this point.

I wouldnt be surprised to see Rip bought out though, he is hating life up in Detroit right now. They just need to let him go

Skyhook79;691565 wrote: Lebron would ONLY sign a 3 yr extension with the Cavs... Durant signed a 5 year extension...huge difference in committment to a team.

And everyone wants to rip on Danny Ferry because he "didn't get Lebron James the right supporting cast."

Lebron James fucked the Cavs by signing that 3 year agreement, NOT Danny Ferry. Danny Ferry was chasing his tail trying to find that "chemistry" that would bring them a championship as soon as the 3 year was signed. Ferry turned the roster over 3x's bringing in 10 new players via trade (many were handpicked by Lebron...Hughes, Shaq, etc) trying to please Lebron.

Lebron's lack of commitment screwed the franchise. In hindsight, Ferry probably should have just done with LBJ what Denver did with Melo, trade him but everyone in the organization wanted to coddle pussy boy, Bron Bron.

BR1986FB;691810 wrote:And everyone wants to rip on Danny Ferry because he "didn't get Lebron James the right supporting cast."

Lebron James fucked the Cavs by signing that 3 year agreement, NOT Danny Ferry. Danny Ferry was chasing his tail trying to find that "chemistry" that would bring them a championship as soon as the 3 year was signed. Ferry turned the roster over 3x's bringing in 10 new players via trade (many were handpicked by Lebron...Hughes, Shaq, etc) trying to please Lebron.

Lebron's lack of commitment screwed the franchise. In hindsight, Ferry probably should have just done with LBJ what Denver did with Melo, trade him but everyone in the organization wanted to coddle pussy boy, Bron Bron.

Windhorst made a comment after Bron left for Miami. Something along the lines of "Lebron has done more recruting in the past 2 weeks in Miami than he did in 7 years in Cleveland". Meeting D Fisher at the aiport, calling Mike Miller. He wasnt doing that when he was in Clevland.

KR1245;691843 wrote:Windhorst made a comment after Bron left for Miami. Something along the lines of "Lebron has done more recruting in the past 2 weeks in Miami than he did in 7 years in Cleveland". Meeting D Fisher at the aiport, calling Mike Miller. He wasnt doing that when he was in Clevland.

I don't think he was out there actively recruiting people for the Cavs but he was telling them the guys he wanted. He had a huge hard on for Larry Hughes before the organization brought Hughes in.

BR1986FB;691810 wrote:And everyone wants to rip on Danny Ferry because he "didn't get Lebron James the right supporting cast."

Lebron James fucked the Cavs by signing that 3 year agreement, NOT Danny Ferry. Danny Ferry was chasing his tail trying to find that "chemistry" that would bring them a championship as soon as the 3 year was signed. Ferry turned the roster over 3x's bringing in 10 new players via trade (many were handpicked by Lebron...Hughes, Shaq, etc) trying to please Lebron.

Lebron's lack of commitment screwed the franchise. In hindsight, Ferry probably should have just done with LBJ what Denver did with Melo, trade him but everyone in the organization wanted to coddle pussy boy, Bron Bron.

I find comments like these to be even more ridiculous than Skyhook's. At least he has been consistent with his absurd comments.

I mean, when Lebron signed the 3 year extension everybody, especially Cavs fans, were saying that it was a good financial decision because of the expiring CBA. Now that Lebron leaves the Cavs, there is a completely different perspective on the situation. I find this to happen a lot. A behavior or action that he did in Cleveland was welcomed and defended completely, now that same action is just showing how egotistical, selfish, and disrespectful of an individual he truly is. It's quite amusing.

elbuckeye28;691911 wrote:I find comments like these to be even more ridiculous than Skyhook's. At least he has been consistent with his absurd comments.

I mean, when Lebron signed the 3 year extension everybody, especially Cavs fans, were saying that it was a good financial decision because of the expiring CBA. Now that Lebron leaves the Cavs, there is a completely different perspective on the situation. I find this to happen a lot. A behavior or action that he did in Cleveland was welcomed and defended completely, now that same action is just showing how egotistical, selfish, and disrespectful of an individual he truly is. It's quite amusing.

While I agree some were like that, BR wasn't one of them. I surely wasn't. Either way, your last statement is the truth, whether most cavs fans were blind to it or not.

Fly4Fun;691660 wrote:Watching Bosh shoot 18" jumper after jumper was hilarious.

The guy is the epitome of soft.

So shooting jumpers makes you soft now?

robj55;691926 wrote:So shooting jumpers makes you soft now?

He's been known as soft his whole career.

like_that;691772 wrote:What spin is there? I argued from the beginning that he is a pussy, and this is further proof that he is a pussy. If anyone is trying to spin anything it is you lol. You brought up a Cleveland player which had nothing to do with Bosh, thus nothing to do with the argument. If you had no idea who my team was would you bring up andy and his flopping? Probably not. GTFO with this spin shit. Pot meet kettle. And for the record i am not a fan of Andy's flopping bullshit either, he does come off as a pussy when he does it, but once again what does this have to do with Bosh being a pussy? I am looking forward to your next fail.

The spin I was referring to was you getting your panties in a bunch over someone not on your "team," Chris Bosh. Bosh isn't my boy, the Heat aren't my team, and my panties aren't in a bunch over any of it.

hangonsloopy;691955 wrote:He's been known as soft his whole career.

How long has he been shooting jumpers?

BR1986FB;691810 wrote:And everyone wants to rip on Danny Ferry because he "didn't get Lebron James the right supporting cast."

Lebron James fucked the Cavs by signing that 3 year agreement, NOT Danny Ferry. Danny Ferry was chasing his tail trying to find that "chemistry" that would bring them a championship as soon as the 3 year was signed. Ferry turned the roster over 3x's bringing in 10 new players via trade (many were handpicked by Lebron...Hughes, Shaq, etc) trying to please Lebron.

Lebron's lack of commitment screwed the franchise. In hindsight, Ferry probably should have just done with LBJ what Denver did with Melo, trade him but everyone in the organization wanted to coddle pussy boy, Bron Bron.

So signing an extension is a lack of commitment? Wouldn't it make more sense for someone not committed to opt out after the original contract? Bottom line is the Cavs didn't have the right pieces in place to win a championship. LeBron's extension didn't fuck the Cavs over. A roster full of Tito's did.

Ric Bucher: Troy Murphy is headed Boston's way

http://www.celticstown.com/2011/02/25/ric-bucher-troy-murphy-headed-bostons-way/

99% of jump shooting big men are pussies.

Bosh, Gasol, Dirk, Okur, just to name a few.

"LeBron's extension didn't fuck the Cavs over. A roster full of Tito's did."

The roster was good enough to have the best record in the League 2 years running. Every move Ferry made bringing in Hughes,Gooden,Mo,Wallace,Wally,West,Parker,Shaq,Jamison and more, Lebron was consulted and signed off on. Those were the best options they had without getting long term committment from Lebron. I truly believe Lebron made his mind up 3 years ago that he did not want to play in Cleveland beyond those 3 years.

Look at the names you listed. Which one of those guys is supposed to help win a title? And you of all people should know how little the regular season matters once the playoffs start.

karen lotz;692021 wrote:Look at the names you listed. Which one of those guys is supposed to help win a title? And you of all people should know how little the regular season matters once the playoffs start.

The 1st or 2nd seed from each Conference has either won or played in the NBA Finals 8 of the last 11 years, 2 of those missing belong to the Cavs. Where your seeded has very much to do with Playoff success.

karen lotz;691996 wrote:How long has he been shooting jumpers?

As a power forward he is soft. Always has been. I didn't say it was because he shoots jumpers, someone else did.

karen lotz;692021 wrote:Look at the names you listed. Which one of those guys is supposed to help win a title? And you of all people should know how little the regular season matters once the playoffs start.

That list of players could have looked much different had Bron commited to the Cavs.

Trueblue23;692011 wrote:99% of jump shooting big men are pussies.

Bosh, Gasol, Dirk, Okur, just to name a few.

So Karl Malone was soft too? I don't agree with that

KR1245;692061 wrote:That list of players could have looked much different had Bron commited to the Cavs.

This is such a revisionist look that is based on far too many assumptions to have much, if any, validity.

When James signed his last contract with the Cavs, as is well-known, he opted to take less than the maximum contract and settled for three years so that he would be a free agent this summer. Though that may seem like a long time, from a development standpoint in the NBA, it isn't.

The Cavs were "on the clock" as it were, especially during the past two seasons as it was obvious teams like the Knicks, Nets and Heat were clearing cap space to get ready for a shot at James. The team bet "short" on a lot of roster moves in an effort to keep the team as competitive as possible at that instant.

This included making trades for older players like Ben Wallace, Shaquille O'Neal and Antawn Jamison, all deals that James pushed for because he wanted to win a title as soon as possible.




During the past two summers when free agents the Cavs were interested in called James, he was non-committal about his future. He hoped players would come play with him but he was not on the front of the recruiting lines. He was also unwilling to give any sign he was going to be in Cleveland long term.

These tactics cost the Cavs several players, most notably Trevor Ariza last summer, who did not sign with the Cavs after not getting a commitment from James.

Like leaving in free agency, this is absolutely James' right as a premier player. Forcing his team to spend money and stay competitive in the short term is him looking out for his best interests. The Cavs gladly accepted the gamble and nearly every other team in the league would have accepted the same circumstances to have a player like James.

But then James signed a six-year contract with the Heat and instantly began recruiting other free agents. He called up former teammates Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Jawad Williams.

Ilgauskas signed a free-agent contract with the Miami Heat on Saturday and will now play for a team other than the Cavaliers for the first time in his NBA career.

James also pitched friend Mike Miller. He waited at the airport for Derek Fisher's private jet to land so he could make a personal plea for him to come to Miami.

There's probably been a lot more that has not become public.

Again, this is of course his right and prerogative. A star player should want players to come to his team. And now that he's signed for six years, the free agents are comfortable in coming. It is no wonder Miller signed for five years.

What the Cavs want to know is why, despite doing everything James asked and attempting to trade for as many top players as they could, they were not afforded anywhere near the same opportunity as James is already giving a team he's been with for less than two weeks.

In his comments in ESPN's "Sunday Conversation" last weekend, James blamed Cavs owner Dan Gilbert for not considering the long term.

What the Cavs wanted to scream at the TV and have been seething about privately all during the Vegas Summer League is how could they when James himself had them shackled to the short term.

KR1245;692061 wrote:That list of players could have looked much different had Bron commited to the Cavs.

Committed when? He signed a 3 year extension. Should have have signed an annual extension? My god. I love how because Durant signed a 5 year extension, he is the most committed player in NBA history. I can't wait to see all of the top tier free agents lining up to sign with the Thunder this off season.