Stern fines Dan Gilbert $100,000 for LeBron letter

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Jul 12, 2010 10:54 PM
Not really surprised by this in the slightest. Stern has always been VERY quick to fine owners who take even the slightest misstep. With this obviously being out of the norm of owner's conduct (although I feel in a good way) the fine is not a shock.
Jul 12, 2010 10:54pm
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Jul 12, 2010 10:56 PM
HitsRus;421883 wrote:You are right. He should have been demanding an investigation into player collusion and tampering. What he did was way to amateurish....he should have got out the attorneys.

Owners met today and decided they did not want to pursue it. Also, Stern came out and said the players did nothing wrong.
Jul 12, 2010 10:56pm
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Jul 12, 2010 11:32 PM
The NBA teams are all equal. They have the same salary cap and the same ways to create more space for them to use to sign players. What isn't equal are the locations. Miami, LA, New York, Boston, Chicago have a lot of perks which draw players to want to play in those places. Cleveland is a shithole and nobody worth their salt wants to go there and wallow in misery. I don't know what you want Stern to do about that.
Jul 12, 2010 11:32pm
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Jul 12, 2010 11:50 PM
thedynasty1998;421908 wrote:And what if there was a deal in place? What violation occurred? I don't think they ever said where they would play, I think they just talked about it. Hell, it sounded like Wade was seriously considering Chicago at one point.

Come on man... That was all SMOKE.

This has been planned for the longest. No way does Pat Riley strip his team like that unless he knows something... These guys ALL signed the same contracts... There were other FA's that year that signed longer deals... Melo for instance..

These 3 had it planned the entire time. We were just too damn blind to see it.
Jul 12, 2010 11:50pm
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Jul 13, 2010 5:30 AM
The Equalizer;421934 wrote:Cleveland is a shithole and nobody worth their salt wants to go there and wallow in misery.
Says the guy from Steubenville.
Jul 13, 2010 5:30am
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Jul 13, 2010 7:25 AM
BCBulldog;422024 wrote:Says the guy from Steubenville.

haha. Was thinking the same thing.
Jul 13, 2010 7:25am
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Jul 13, 2010 7:45 AM
Darkon;421896 wrote:Why doesn't Stern take that million to pay for an investigation and see how long this deal really was in place?
I believe the fine was 100K,but I get your point...say what you want,but James came out of this looking like the narcissistic,attention grabbing hypocrite that he is,and Dan Gilbert came out looking like the passionate-about-his team,jilted owner that will gladly pay his fine for speaking his mind that he is...and this sentiment isn't only in the Great State of Ohio !!!
Jul 13, 2010 7:45am
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Jul 13, 2010 10:42 AM
Well deserved. Gilbert was completely unprofessional after LeBron's announcement. I can understand his anger, but that is no way for an OWNER to act.
Jul 13, 2010 10:42am
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Jul 13, 2010 10:54 AM
Gilbert was out of line, acted like a three year old and totally deserves a fine, to say otherwise is stupid.

im glad lebron left, cleveland fans show their true colors when they dont get their way. i cant wait until Miami plays Cleveland in Cleveland and Miami wipes the court with the cavs.
Jul 13, 2010 10:54am
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Jul 13, 2010 11:00 AM
damn--you must hang with some pretty smart three year olds :p
Jul 13, 2010 11:00am
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Jul 13, 2010 11:09 AM
I really don't think that Stern is a bad Commissioner but I think that this fine was purely political and there will be no further action of any kind taken. Was this plan in place long ago? I think there is a preponderance of evidence that suggests there was collusion, but I don't think Stern wants to go there during his time as Commisioner.
Jul 13, 2010 11:09am
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Jul 13, 2010 11:09 AM
Automatik;422137 wrote:Well deserved. Gilbert was completely unprofessional after LeBron's announcement. I can understand his anger, but that is no way for an OWNER to act.

THIS
Jul 13, 2010 11:09am
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Jul 13, 2010 11:12 AM
Gilbert is set to lose something like 250 MILLION dollars because of Lebron's decision to leave...you guys try losing that much and tell me you wouldn't be a LITTLE politically incorrect.

Boo fucking hoo, he called Lebron a coward. People are so god damn sensitive these days they act like Gilbert is some criminal.
Jul 13, 2010 11:12am
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Jul 13, 2010 11:29 AM
SportsAndLady;422163 wrote:Boo fucking hoo, he called Lebron a coward. People are so god damn sensitive these days they act like Gilbert is some criminal.
THIS !!!
Jul 13, 2010 11:29am
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Jul 13, 2010 11:49 AM
ccrunner609;422211 wrote:So I guess freedom of speech costs $100,000. I would take Stern to court on the 1st ammendment

And you would lose.

Go on an airplane and scream "I have a bomb!" and then say its your first amendment.
Jul 13, 2010 11:49am
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Jul 13, 2010 11:57 AM
SportsAndLady;422215 wrote:And you would lose.

Go on an airplane and scream "I have a bomb!" and then say its your first amendment.

Yea and tell Mark Cuban he has the freedom to criticize the refs, I'm sure that's something he would love to know.
Jul 13, 2010 11:57am
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Jul 13, 2010 11:57 AM
ccrunner609;422211 wrote:So I guess freedom of speech costs $100,000. I would take Stern to court on the 1st ammendment

NBA is a private entity... he can fine people just like Justin can ban people for shit they say here in this private realm.
Jul 13, 2010 11:57am
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Jul 13, 2010 11:59 AM
SportsAndLady;422215 wrote:And you would lose.

Go on an airplane and scream "I have a bomb!" and then say its your first amendment.

So you're going to compare Gilbert's thoughts on LeBron to screaming "bomb" on an airplane? SMH
Jul 13, 2010 11:59am
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Jul 13, 2010 11:59 AM
ccrunner609;422211 wrote:So I guess freedom of speech costs $100,000. I would take Stern to court on the 1st ammendment

haha. Go study up on the collective bargaining agreement and how that effects owner's and player's "rights"
Jul 13, 2010 11:59am
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Jul 13, 2010 12:01 PM
krazie45;422227 wrote:So you're going to compare Gilbert's thoughts on LeBron to screaming "bomb" on an airplane? SMH

I wasn't comparing them dumbass..I was just saying there are times where your first amendment are not protected. Both of those times are instances.
Jul 13, 2010 12:01pm
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Jul 13, 2010 12:01 PM
ccrunner609;422211 wrote:So I guess freedom of speech costs $100,000. I would take Stern to court on the 1st ammendment

*insert any of the million facepalm pics*

The NBA is essentially a big company. As commissioner, Stern is the de facto boss of said company. Said fine, regardless of how anyone personally feels about it, is basically a boss disciplining an employee.

Hey, you're a coach! Why don't you VERY publicly start talking about how a few athletes on your team are real cuntstains and see how far freedom of speech gets you when your district's school board/superintendent find out.
Jul 13, 2010 12:01pm
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Jul 13, 2010 12:23 PM
On purely and business and professional standpoint....it was out of line. Cleveland fans need to put their fandom aside and look at it from an objective view. Again, that was no way for an OWNER of a pro team to act....bottom line.
Jul 13, 2010 12:23pm
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Jul 13, 2010 12:24 PM
Yeah God forbid an owner show passion about his team...oh the humanity!!

And like I said, I'd like to see how you all would act losing that much money.
Jul 13, 2010 12:24pm
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Jul 13, 2010 12:26 PM
SportsAndLady;422264 wrote:Yeah God forbid an owner show passion about his team...oh the humanity!!

And like I said, I'd like to see how you all would act losing that much money.
Passion is one thing, acting like a whining unprofessional baby is another. He could have chosen his words better and still made his statement.

He looked like a moron, ask anyone that is not a Cleveland supporter. That statement did more damage than good.....and hes 100k down....like that really matters though.
Jul 13, 2010 12:26pm