posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieYou will easily find a lot of materials out there - often from Jewish sources - that say Judaism is not a race.
The issue here is that Hitler and the Nazi's called them a race of people. So it doesnt matter to anyone today but the push for the holocaust by Hitler was that the Jews WERE A RACE OF PEOPLE.
You guys need to study history more.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieI agree with what you say here. I frankly don't see why there's so much anger aimed at her. I think she is ill-informed and has some anti-white racist attitudes. Nonetheless, it is interesting to see people railing at her for essentially repeating the message most Jewish organizations have promulgated for 80 years - that "Jewish" is not a race of people.
1. I don’t thing she should be suspended because I think cancel culture is ridiculous. But if Disney fires Gina Carrano for far less insensitive comments and they don’t fire Whoopi, they will be rather hypocritical.
2. As iclfan said, you can’t go off what anyone looks at Jews of today, it’s historically ignorant to do so. The Holocaust was 100% about race and also anti-LGTBQ. It was not “white against white” like she said. She was wrong and anyone trying to defend her comments are wrong.
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie"Muslim" is also not a race...that "Jewish" is not a race of people.
posted by gut
"Muslim" is also not a race...
True, most Jews and Muslims would hate to know this, but they are all technically Semitic. But since Jews use that term mostly the Arabian people/Muslims will never use/agree with it.
Semitic is basically Northern Africa and Middle East
posted by jmogSorry, but only someone who is ignorant of actual WW2 history and the Holocaust would say it wasn’t about race.
The Nazi’s were literally white supremacists who thought the “Arian race” was superior to all others, and they considered Jews a completely different race.
And anyone who is trying to explain away what she said is also ignorant of the history.
Hope that helps more
You miss my point. I am well aware of how the Nazis thought and that they considered the Jews a race. I'm also not defending Whoopi Goldberg. I doubt she has a clue about the details of the Holocaust.
My point was that she inadvertently stumbled upon a point that has been in contention for centuries - long before the Nazis and in the time since. I pointed it out mostly because many of the people outraged at her are likely unaware who stands for what on this topic. Their virtue signaling is rushed when they haven't evaluated who's on their team.
You spelled Aryan wrong.
posted by jmogI was going more for the "Muslim travel ban is racist!!!". That entire thing was a shitshow on both sides.True, most Jews and Muslims would hate to know this, but they are all technically Semitic. But since Jews use that term mostly the Arabian people/Muslims will never use/agree with it.
posted by jmog1. I don’t thing she should be suspended because I think cancel culture is ridiculous. But if Disney fires Gina Carrano for far less insensitive comments and they don’t fire Whoopi, they will be rather hypocritical.
2. As iclfan said, you can’t go off what anyone looks at Jews of today, it’s historically ignorant to do so. The Holocaust was 100% about race and also anti-LGTBQ. It was not “white against white” like she said. She was wrong and anyone trying to defend her comments are wrong.
posted by gut
"Muslim" is also not a race...
Nor is Rastafarian.
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie
You miss my point. I am well aware of how the Nazis thought and that they considered the Jews a race. I'm also not defending Whoopi Goldberg. I doubt she has a clue about the details of the Holocaust.
My point was that she inadvertently stumbled upon a point that has been in contention for centuries - long before the Nazis and in the time since. I pointed it out mostly because many of the people outraged at her are likely unaware who stands for what on this topic. Their virtue signaling is rushed when they haven't evaluated who's on their team.
You spelled Aryan wrong.
The Bruce Arians race! Where all chubby dudes who coach football get placed.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieYup, I type enough on a fantasy football board and have mentioned Bruce Arians enough that apparently my phone autocorrected Aryan to Arian
You spelled Aryan wrong.
posted by jmog
Yup, I type enough on a fantasy football board and have mentioned Bruce Arians enough that apparently my phone autocorrected Aryan to Arian
Der Fuhrer wouldn't accept that. "Get onto the train. Clearly label your luggage. It will follow you there."
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/timothy-leduc-to-become-1st-openly-nonbinary-us-winter-games-athlete
WTF? I don’t know what anything means anymore. WTF is non binary mean when you literally doing a sport that identifies you as a man skating with a women? You surely do embrace manly things with that finely shaped beard. I bet you still have your dong also.
I guess if “he” comes out and says he doesn’t have any sex and when he jerks off to a can of beans, it’s not sexual. Then I might understand.
Man, they mad at Joe Rogan!
All the stuff he's said over the years, but a couple of programs on Covid and the cancel nazi's just couldn't take it any more.
Beginning of the end. He's started to apologize. Blood is in the water.
posted by majorsparkBeginning of the end. He's started to apologize. Blood is in the water.
Someone combed through thousands of hours of audio to put together that compilation of him. I would assume that person, or people, were paid. I think that's all a lot more concerning than Rogan using the N-word.
posted by gutMan, they mad at Joe Rogan!
All the stuff he's said over the years, but a couple of programs on Covid and the cancel nazi's just couldn't take it any more.
Liberals. He’s liberal himself. They’re just all babies. Between wanting to cancel everyone and wanting to mask children, they’re taking a lot of L’s lately.
Fake outrage, like Joe said.....its all taken out of context
posted by FletchFake outrage, like Joe said.....its all taken out of context
His alleged attempt at a joke about Philly(?) was unbelievably offensive.
Otherwise, he should have just said "I'm not a journalist and I'm just trying to do interesting interviews".
The "party of science" doesn't seem to grasp that challenging and questioning the consensus is sort of fundamental to science. They've politicized science and turned it into propaganda.
posted by majorsparkBeginning of the end. He's started to apologize. Blood is in the water.
Yep; he failed liberal polittics 101: NEVER apologize
I don't believe the other 3 people pictured above have apologized for their 100% misinformation/disinformation/lie(s).
If this is true she should be removed from any public office or never voted in.
posted by FletchIf this is true she should be removed from any public office or never voted in.
I would guess most of the national pols score somewhere on the psychopath spectrum. And Kamala is not alone - abusive and toxic workplaces are far too common in DC. These people are assholes that really don't care about their constituents.
I think the tidal wave is growing that is going to overwhelm the leftists' covid response actions/policies. The child abuse inflicted by these whackos is the last straw.
PS -- salute to the Canadian truckers !!
