posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

This site is a right wing echo chamber.  Having an occasional post being critical of something Trump did doesn’t change that.

How right wing is it to be anti war?

Because the way I see it, I argue with Dems against both wars while they argue for it.

I think the shifting oaradigmd has got people staring at broken compasses.

Edit:

I think that several/most people here have also pointed out the fact that the Dems have dropped their bread and butter base, which is the working class. 

I know that it has been 30 years since I've been a Dem. I've been very upfront about it. I find it amazing how people take that to mean that one has to be a Republican at that point. They are so absorbed into the Duopoly that they can't comprehend thinking outside of the system. 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

It’s just the way it is - not good or bad.

No,.I think it's just the way YOU are. 

posted by CenterBHSFan

How right wing is it to be anti war?

Because the way I see it, I argue with Dems against both wars while they argue for it.

I think the shifting oaradigmd has got people staring at broken compasses.

Edit:

I think that several/most people here have also pointed out the fact that the Dems have dropped their bread and butter base, which is the working class. 

I know that it has been 30 years since I've been a Dem. I've been very upfront about it. I find it amazing how people take that to mean that one has to be a Republican at that point. They are so absorbed into the Duopoly that they can't comprehend thinking outside of the system. 

I said right wing as in conservative, I didn’t say Republican  

posted by CenterBHSFan

No,.I think it's just the way YOU are. 

Yes, it is the way I perceive this forum. 

I'm curious now as to what people think constitutes as right/left, conservative/liberal, Republican/Democrat. 

The way I see it is that it's all such a jumbled mess.  I honestly don't know how anyone can live in the current reality of things, not their ideals, and call themselves one of the other. Not anymore.

I also think that most people on this site couldn't distinguish a party that delivers on a claim or holds to its traditional values. We Americans are in a fix lol!

posted by CenterBHSFan

I'm curious now as to what people think constitutes as right/left, conservative/liberal, Republican/Democrat. 

The way I see it is that it's all such a jumbled mess.  I honestly don't know how anyone can live in the current reality of things, not their ideals, and call themselves one of the other. Not anymore.

I also think that most people on this site couldn't distinguish a party that delivers on a claim or holds to its traditional values. We Americans are in a fix lol!

Conservative (right) / progressive (left) are philosophies or world views that remain static.  Political parties don’t necessarily overlap with these as parties are platforms that are ever morphing and don’t necessarily adhere to a philosophy.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Conservative (right) / progressive (left) are philosophies or world views that remain static.  Political parties don’t necessarily overlap with these as parties are platforms that are ever morphing and don’t necessarily adhere to a philosophy.

I agree with this. 

Because the actions of Dems in the past 10 years does not match the definition of what it means to be a Democrat.

1.) I agree with Trump's defamation lawsuit against ABC. It was the correct thing to do, and the settlement was just.

2.) I wholeheartedly disagree with his lawsuit against a publication that posted a poll that turned out to be wrong. People can't go around suing poll publications. More often than not they are wrong - so what? It might be disappointing for those who believed them and they are wrong and the nominee lost. BooHoo, life goes on. But what is happening here is that Trump is being a sore winner. I mean, it's beyond stupid. Time and again this retard just goes around fucking his own self in the ass. Classic!

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Yes, it is the way I perceive this forum. 

When you're left of Stalin, everything looks right wing. 

posted by superman

When you're left of Stalin, everything looks right wing. 

Fantastic

posted by CenterBHSFan

1.) I agree with Trump's defamation lawsuit against ABC. It was the correct thing to do, and the settlement was just.

2.) I wholeheartedly disagree with his lawsuit against a publication that posted a poll that turned out to be wrong. People can't go around suing poll publications. More often than not they are wrong - so what? It might be disappointing for those who believed them and they are wrong and the nominee lost. BooHoo, life goes on. But what is happening here is that Trump is being a sore winner. I mean, it's beyond stupid. Time and again this retard just goes around fucking his own self in the ass. Classic!

While at the same time talking about how lowering the price of groceries is going to be "hard" to do. You know, one of the main (if not THE main) thing that Rs killed Ds on when it came to things that are important to voters.

Looks like he's more focused on what's more important to him (wounded pride) than anything that matters to anyone who isn't a pure jock-rider dumb enough to think that if Trump wins, they win.

posted by Heretic

Looks like he's more focused on what's more important to him (wounded pride) than anything that matters to anyone who isn't a pure jock-rider dumb enough to think that if Trump wins, they win.

This is what I don't get. If were me and I proved a pollster wrong, by 17pts as was the case, I would be thrilled about it. What part of that can possibly hurt Trump's pride?! I just can't.

posted by CenterBHSFan

This is what I don't get. If were me and I proved a pollster wrong, by 17pts as was the case, I would be thrilled about it. What part of that can possibly hurt Trump's pride?! I just can't.

Apparently, he calls it "election fraud". Because people must be so weak-willed and stupid that if they hear that someone is losing according to a random poll, they won't bother to show up and vote for that person. For a guy who always tries to portray himself as "top dog alpha", that's a hilariously beta way of thinking, but that's life!

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

It’s just the way it is - not good or bad.

It’s the way your bias opinion believes it to be, that doesn’t make it true. 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Yes, it is the way I perceive this forum. 

Unfortunately for your belief, most people on this board have taken and posted results of political ideology surveys and most, other than like 2, have come out right near dead center with a little left or right of center.

So no, not a right wing echo chamber….

posted by jmog

It’s the way your bias opinion believes it to be, that doesn’t make it true. 

It’s subjective for me - true.  But your opinion is exactly the same - subjective.  People taking online political quizzes does not change that.  I think this place leans pretty far right.  That’s my bias just like your bias that it’s some sort of centrist Eden.  

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

It’s subjective for me - true.  But your opinion is exactly the same - subjective.  People taking online political quizzes does not change that.  I think this place leans pretty far right.  That’s my bias just like your bias that it’s some sort of centrist Eden.  

The problem is that the only objective evidence we have, the online quizzes, sides with my viewpoint and not yours.

You may say "well people will lie to get the right answers they want to portray", nearly everyone? That goes against Occam's Razor.

Yes, its still my opinion, but at least my opinion is backed up by objective evidence, your's is just your opinion.

posted by jmog

The problem is that the only objective evidence we have, the online quizzes, sides with my viewpoint and not yours.

You may say "well people will lie to get the right answers they want to portray", nearly everyone? That goes against Occam's Razor.

Yes, its still my opinion, but at least my opinion is backed up by objective evidence, your's is just your opinion.

posted by geeblock
literally all 14 people including you who took that quiz said it was horribly worded and didnt really reflect their opinions or of the 10 questions several didnt make sense, but go off king!

Poorly worded questions doesn't mean everything was skewed to the left. Meaning the so called "far right echo chamber" wouldn't all be centrist in the questions. Simple logic that betrays you constantly.

I swear you shouldn't be allowed to teach any human anything other than maybe dodgeball.

posted by jmog

Poorly worded questions doesn't mean everything was skewed to the left. Meaning the so called "far right echo chamber" wouldn't all be centrist in the questions. Simple logic that betrays you constantly.

I swear you shouldn't be allowed to teach any human anything other than maybe dodgeball.

i didnt say it was skewed any direction, just saying its not accurate. 10 poorly worded questions by definition isnt enough data.  I will take 10 years of reading posts.  Also it was 14 replies, some by the same people so it isnt even half the board who took it

posted by jmog

Yes, it’s still my opinion, but at least my opinion is backed up by objective evidence, your's is just your opinion.

My opinion is backed up by objective evidence that you’d be a real downer at a cocktail party.

posted by geeblock

i didnt say it was skewed any direction, just saying its not accurate. 10 poorly worded questions by definition isnt enough data.  I will take 10 years of reading posts.  Also it was 14 replies, some by the same people so it isnt even half the board who took it

So most people that took it came out centrist, the poorly worded questions means they are really far right echo chamber?

I hope you are joking 

posted by jmog

The problem is that the only objective evidence we have, the online quizzes, sides with my viewpoint and not yours.

You may say "well people will lie to get the right answers they want to portray", nearly everyone? That goes against Occam's Razor.

Yes, its still my opinion, but at least my opinion is backed up by objective evidence, your's is just your opinion.

John Lennon’s (aka Dr. Winston O’Boogie) alternate lyrics to Imagine:

“You may say jmog’s insufferable 

And you’re not the only one

I hope someday he relaxes

And releases the tension in each bun”

posted by jmog

So most people that took it came out centrist, the poorly worded questions means they are really far right echo chamber?

I hope you are joking 

that poll does not out weigh the 10 years of posts I have read. Correct. Im not saying its crazy far right, but its definitly  a right leaning echo chamber.  Posts that dont agree are often met with anger and name calling.  You would certainly have to agree that democrats are held to a higher standard and called out more often than the republican party if you were being honest.

posted by geeblock

that poll does not out weigh the 10 years of posts I have read. Correct. Im not saying its crazy far right, but its definitly  a right leaning echo chamber.  Posts that dont agree are often met with anger and name calling.  You would certainly have to agree that democrats are held to a higher standard and called out more often than the republican party if you were being honest.

No way you think QO isn’t given just as much shit as say Ptown.