geeblock wrote:
You think federal employees who have access to the treasury aren’t vetted?
Quote exactly where I said that, or admit you made it up in your brain.
ptown_trojans_1 wrote:Again, the blueprint is there. Have Doge work with the federal agencies and then report to Congress directly the cuts.
Take everything Musk is finding and put that in a bill or through the committees.
Then pass it.
Going around Congress is simply against the law.
You truly believe that would get ANYTHING done?
If you are that naive you need to buy beachfront property in Arizona.
jmog wrote:
You truly believe that would get ANYTHING done?
If you are that naive you need to buy beachfront property in Arizona.
Its the law of the land. It's the Constitution and federal law.
You of all people should understand that.
We have to work within the framework.
I'd like to see Trump really leaning on Congress to start the process.
It really pisses people off knowing that even $1 is going to pay for stupid shit like trans operas.
Nobody gives a shit what Serbia thinks about gay people!
In other news:
Dems disparaging 19yr olds is the absolute best way to gather the youth vote.
Keep it up, dipshits! 🤣
ptown_trojans_1 wrote:
Its the law of the land. It's the Constitution and federal law.
You of all people should understand that.
We have to work within the framework.
Congress isn’t doing their constitutional duty. So aren’t they breaking the law of the land?
jmog wrote:
Move the goalposts when you are wrong. Got it.
Our budget would have to be cut by 27% to even be balanced from 2024.
They’d hate me worse, I’d give every single department 1 week to tell me how they are cutting 28%, and I will even give them a year to actually do it, or Musk/Soros/Zuckerburg/Joe Smoe from Paduca, is coming in with a sledgehammer to break the budget.
Now that is actually a reasonable approach. Let the department and people who actually work there make the cuts.
jmog wrote:
Congress isn’t doing their constitutional duty. So aren’t they breaking the law of the land?
LOL you are reaching.
Cite the article and law Congress is violating?
You cannot simply ignore the Constitution for an easy solution just because you want to.
A President cannot ignore and eliminate funds thet have already been approved and authorized.
geeblock wrote:
Now that is actually a reasonable approach. Let the department and people who actually work there make the cuts.
It didn’t work for Obama when he set up that commission.
He didnt threaten the Musk/Soros band if they didn’t do it like I would, maybe that’s the problem, no real recourse if people don’t follow through.
ptown_trojans_1 wrote:
LOL you are reaching.
Cite the article and law Congress is violating?
You cannot simply ignore the Constitution for an easy solution just because you want to.
A President cannot ignore and eliminate funds thet have already been approved and authorized.
I think you are under the misconception that I am for and/or believe this way is the right way.
I am not and I am not “for” it being done this way either.
My hope is that this pisses off Congress enough that they finally do their f’ing job and balance the budget
jmog wrote:
I think you are under the misconception that I am for and/or believe this way is the right way.
I am not and I am not “for” it being done this way either.
My hope is that this pisses off Congress enough that they finally do their f’ing job and balance the budget
Well, it is unclear your position, because you have not said directly you are against this, only saying Congress sucks, especially the last few pages. You sound like you are for.
But, good to know you are against the unconstitutional process.
So just looking around and seeing that, around 3 weeks ago, all the major news outlets started reporting that DOGE is working under Obama's USDS [which works through an IT backdoor], which has already been approved and is fully funded for (Musk isn't getting paid). So was Obama's project Constitutional?
ptown_trojans_1 wrote:
Well, it is unclear your position, because you have not said directly you are against this, only saying Congress sucks, especially the last few pages. You sound like you are for.
But, good to know you are against the unconstitutional process.
I have said a few times it’s not the right way but Congress hasn’t done their job.
Not sure how you missed that.
ptown_trojans_1 wrote:
Money had already been approved and authorized and by Article I, Section 9 as well as the 1974 Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act, the President cannot ignore that law.
Where under Article I, Section 9 does it give the legislative branch the power to compel the chief executive to spend appropriated funds it deems may be used fraudulently? For that matter where in that section does it compel the executive to spend any appropriated funds?
Under Article II, Section 3 the chief executive "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed". Faithfully not dutifully. There is discretion. The chief executive is full within his power to execute or not.
CenterBHSFan wrote:In other news:
Dems disparaging 19yr olds is the absolute best way to gather the youth vote.
Keep it up, dipshits! 🤣
A 19yr old is fully capable of distinguishing an enemy combatant from an innocent civilian in a split second even after helping his battle buddy pack his bowels back into his abdomen. Skillfully exposing government corruption an unwashed adolescent.
majorspark wrote:
Where under Article I, Section 9 does it give the legislative branch the power to compel the chief executive to spend appropriated funds it deems may be used fraudulently? For that matter where in that section does it compel the executive to spend any appropriated funds?
Under Article II, Section 3 the chief executive "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed". Faithfully not dutifully. There is discretion. The chief executive is full within his power to execute or not.
This is just naive, Sparks
I don't think you know how government works.
🤣🤭
I’d say the Israelis have played Trump just about right thus far. Looks like we’ll continue to be all in on their fight with the people they displaced - and suffer the consequences.
jmog wrote:
You truly believe that would get ANYTHING done?
If you are that naive you need to buy beachfront property in Arizona.
So it's OK to act illegally as long as the crime is effective?
Dr Winston O'Boogie wrote:I’d say the Israelis have played Trump just about right thus far. Looks like we’ll continue to be all in on their fight with the people they displaced - and suffer the consequences.
Those damn jews never stop.
Israel can create it's own debt for whatever it wants to do. It does not need to keep adding to ours.
majorspark wrote:
Where under Article I, Section 9 does it give the legislative branch the power to compel the chief executive to spend appropriated funds it deems may be used fraudulently? For that matter where in that section does it compel the executive to spend any appropriated funds?
Under Article II, Section 3 the chief executive "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed". Faithfully not dutifully. There is discretion. The chief executive is full within his power to execute or not.
The courts have spelled that out over the years and the 1974 law clarified it even more.
The firings at the NNSA are some of the dumbest yet. It's like oh snap maybe we shouldn't fire the people that may be over our nuclear weapons and nuclear response.
Thankfully they brought some people back, but goes to show how little thought some of these are.
queencitybuckeye wrote:
So it's OK to act illegally as long as the crime is effective?
I never once said this was ok.
I said I hope this pisses Congress off enough they get off their ass and do their job.
There is a lot of re-manufacturing of people's posts lately lol
Dr Winston O'Boogie wrote:I’d say the Israelis have played Trump just about right thus far. Looks like we’ll continue to be all in on their fight with the people they displaced - and suffer the consequences.
Perhaps instead of all the blathering about making Canada a state and annexing Greenland nonsense, we should be demanding that Israel bend the knee and announce their fealty. We send them this much money and stuff for their conflicts, they're our property and subject to our rule. Change the name to America East, have our people move in and displace theirs to reservations and all the fun stuff that colonization does to the former inhabitants!
Which at least makes more sense than just funding them and putting their interests above our own.