posted by gut

I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it, but it's pretty obvious the Dems are doing everything in their power to disqualify Trump from holding office again.  You'd think they'd WANT him to run again (LOL, maybe that IS the point).

I mean, you don't show up with 30 agents for 9 hours just to recover a few boxes of classified documents.

I don't know how anyone looks at those statutes and think Trump will ever be found guilty, if he's even charged.  Then the big question is WHY?  Like I said, it definitely looks like the purpose was to get a broad warrant to go fishing.

I would love Trump to not run. Would much rather have DeSantis. And I think he’d bring other voters back. This was a dumb idea

posted by gut

I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it, but it's pretty obvious the Dems are doing everything in their power to disqualify Trump from holding office again.  You'd think they'd WANT him to run again (LOL, maybe that IS the point).

I mean, you don't show up with 30 agents for 9 hours just to recover a few boxes of classified documents.

I don't know how anyone looks at those statutes and think Trump will ever be found guilty, if he's even charged.  Then the big question is WHY?  Like I said, it definitely looks like the purpose was to get a broad warrant to go fishing.

It would be a horrible precedent to set, but I wouldn’t lose sleep either if he was DQ’d from running. Pretty much paves the way for an easy Biden defeat.

posted by like_that

It would be a horrible precedent to set, but I wouldn’t lose sleep either if he was DQ’d from running. Pretty much paves the way for an easy Biden defeat.

Trump getting re-elected, at this point, is a frightening thought.  If the combination of paranoia and vengeance doesn't worry you, who the heck would even be willing to join his staff?  But I guess if you're one of those liberals that wants to burn everything down then you should definitely vote for Trump.

I think the GA election interference stuff has legs.  That might be the only realistic chance of disqualifying him from running.

posted by gut

I think the GA election interference stuff has legs.  That might be the only realistic chance of disqualifying him from running.

posted by iclfan2
Lol wut? Are you Stacy Abrams?

Well, there was the recorded phone call which was pretty damning where Trump was asking them to "find 11,000 votes".

There also appears to have been a conspiracy to send false electors, which could be fraud.

Forget the Jan. 6th stuff.  The above was the real effort to steal the election.

I would think the Dems would want Trump to run again

For the love of God, can neither Biden or Trump run again. Somebody else please. 

posted by friendfromlowry

For the love of God, can neither Biden or Trump run again. Somebody else please. 

I vote for this and honestly….I don’t know how anyone can really disagree. Are either of those 2 in the top million of best candidates to lead the United States?

posted by Ironman92

Are either of those 2 in the top million of best candidates to lead the United States?

This could probably be said for most of the people in Congress, as well.

And some people want those clowns in DC to have MORE power.

posted by gut

This could probably be said for most of the people in Congress, as well.

And some people want those clowns in DC to have MORE power.

Yeah, I’m not very smart but I just don’t get it. I pretty much only vote locally anymore.

posted by Ironman92

I vote for this and honestly….I don’t know how anyone can really disagree. Are either of those 2 in the top million of best candidates to lead the United States?

No, the smartest people don’t want to run for President 

posted by friendfromlowry

For the love of God, can neither Biden or Trump run again. Somebody else please. 

Preferably under the age of 60 as well.  These old guys are killing us.

posted by iclfan2

No, the smartest people don’t want to run for President 

Again, find me someone in the top million

posted by iclfan2

No, the smartest people don’t want to run for President 

The strongest trait of a national politician should be psychopathology.  I believe most of them are smart - maybe not the smartest of us all, but top caliber.  But I think in this day in age, primarily psychopaths would be the only ones attracted to these jobs.

Most modern presidents and congress people prove that out - likely most governors too.

posted by Ironman92

Again, find me someone in the top million

Crazy when you think about the numbers.  There are probably something like 3M geniuses (IQ >=140) in the US.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

But I think in this day in age, primarily psychopaths would be the only ones attracted to these jobs.

posted by gut
When you look at what it takes to wage a successful campaign, it's almost a prerequisite to be a pyschopath.

Exactly right.  And that’s just the nature of it.  Your hope is that whichever one lands, his/her best interests align with the country’s from time to time. 

The age thing is another problem.  What does Biden, for example, care as to the effects of any of his actions.  He’s not going to be here. He doesn’t seem to care much for his family since he’s working an all in job at age 80, kids and grandkids be damned.  So he’s probably not all that worried about their future.  Like all modern presidents, that seems to leave his “legacy”.  What will everyone think of me forever?

At least a 50-60 year old has to live with his/her legacy for awhile.  That counts for something.

I believe most are/were very smart but would be crazy to have a “real” person be president. A rock solid 45-55 year old  that has what it takes to handle everything …but wouldn’t matter as the congressmen are the shadiest of them all…but the president is often the best of that shadiest group lol

Perhaps the FBI was looking to gain back records that contain further incriminating evidence about the corrupt and illegal activities of the FBI in the Russia hoax, the largest and most damaging political scandal in U.S. history. 

Biden claimed 0% inflation last month was a whopper.  If Trump made a claim like this, the leftwing media would probably rank it in his top-10 lies all-time and cry about it 24/7 for weeks.

Look, there's spin and gaslighting and all kinds of disgusting deceptions.  But that's an embarassing insult to even the dumbest Americans.

posted by gut

Biden claimed 0% inflation last month was a whopper.  If Trump made a claim like this, the leftwing media would probably rank it in his top-10 lies all-time and cry about it 24/7 for weeks.

Look, there's spin and gaslighting and all kinds of disgusting deceptions.  But that's an embarassing insult to even the dumbest Americans.

I'm sure he's letting gas prices cancel out stuff that is still increasing.  The problem is that he couldn't understand any of this stuff.  What a joke.  I'd love for him to shuffle his ass into the Giant Eagle and tell the people shopping that inflation is at 0.  

posted by gut

Biden claimed 0% inflation last month was a whopper.  If Trump made a claim like this, the leftwing media would probably rank it in his top-10 lies all-time and cry about it 24/7 for weeks.

Look, there's spin and gaslighting and all kinds of disgusting deceptions.  But that's an embarassing insult to even the dumbest Americans.

"C'mon man, one number, Zero"

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

and tell the people shopping that inflation is at 0.  

Funny thing is, inflation actually slowed slightly month-over-month.  And to me that non-spin is more effective for multiple reasons.  But this is, again, an almost re-defining like with "recession".

It's like a cop saying "any idea how fast you were just going".  Well, I had the cruise control set on 80 so therefore my speed was 0...

posted by gut

Funny thing is, inflation actually slowed slightly month-over-month.  And to me that non-spin is more effective for multiple reasons.  But this is, again, an almost re-defining like with "recession".

It's like a cop saying "any idea how fast you were just going".  Well, I had the cruise control set on 80 so therefore my speed was 0...

How about his explanation for the masses - it's zero, yes somethings went up, but others went down, so it's zero.  Reminds me of Patrick Ewing's  defense of NBA salaries, "Yes, we make a lot of money.  But we also spend a lot of money."

https://www.newsweek.com/garland-wray-must-impeached-unconscionable-trump-raid-opinion-1733523

Pretty decent summary