Browns season 2021

Ironman92 Administrator
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Fri, Aug 19, 2022 6:24 AM
posted by Laley23

People are acting like Deshaun is aging. 3 firsts and that money is a steal if he returns as good as he was before. The Browns made a decision, and football wise it was a home run. 

I can’t stand those that say it was a rushed and poor decision. On what grounds is getting someone with Watson’s numbers and age bad business?

Not bad but I think the aging is more on the players on the team who are very good and it’s more of a “window” than an age thing.

Vick was older and his 2 years off was 2 years of his body not taking a beating.


BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Aug 19, 2022 8:07 AM
posted by Ironman92

Not bad but I think the aging is more on the players on the team who are very good and it’s more of a “window” than an age thing.

Vick was older and his 2 years off was 2 years of his body not taking a beating.


Exactly. Chubb, Garrett, Ward, Teller, etc are all in their primes. Every year they don't have a functioning franchise QB, the clock ticks. Especially with Chubb. He's pretty special and I think we all know the shelf life on RB's is short.

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Fri, Aug 19, 2022 1:24 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Jimmy seems like he's got a lot of baggage and may be a locker room problem.  

If memory serves, while with SF, dude did hook up with a porn chick for a bit, so he could be a great role model for Watson in a "these chicks are used to seeing and getting dick" sort of way.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Aug 19, 2022 2:11 PM

The biggest issue with bringing in Jimmy G is a potential locker room divide. 

From what I've heard, teammates love him and will dive on the sword for him. I know Watson's their (front office/coaches) guy but if JG starts winning (games and the locker room) it could cause a problem when Watson's ready to come back.

I don't think JG would have an issue showcasing himself as a hired gun but, with the fact I'd bet not 100% of the team is "all in" on Watson after these accusations, there could be an issue with teammates wanting to roll with him (JG) instead of DW.

sportchampps Senior Member
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Fri, Aug 19, 2022 5:01 PM

11 games was probably the most Watson would agree to so his contract year counts. I thinks it’s 6 games to count as a contract year 

gut Senior Member
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Sat, Aug 20, 2022 1:22 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Did a bit of digging after I made my comment about Roethlisberger. Totally retract what I said. Dude flat out raped that girl in Georgia and tried a few more times at local bars in PA. So, I guess Jack the Raper (your boy) got off super light too.

You're an apologist, and maybe an idiot.  You support an actual serial sexual assaulter, and are trying to equivocate.  Stop pretending like he isn't as bad as Cosby or Weinstein.  Completely different league.  Ben was accused by one or two drunk sluts.  Fact.  Watson is a serial sexual predator.  Fact.

Let me educate you on the serial sexual assaulter otherwise known as Deshaun Cosby.

Roethlisberger was never arrested, never charged.   He was accused of rape, years later, by a literal mental patient.  No one believed her, and it was pretty much ignored.

A few years later, a few sorority chicks in GA google him, find out he's in town...and also that a mental patient filed a civil suit for rape.  They proceed to follow him around to numerous bars.  DTF (that means down-to-fuck, yes she was wearing a nametag) drunken sorority girl goes willingly with him to a bathroom.  Later, her mother hen drunk and obnoxious sorority sister [note, not DTF girl] accuses Ben of rape.  Cops laugh, until said mother hen leaks it to TMZ.  DA later scolds drunk and irresponsible parties for wasting his time.  No evidence, no charges of rape.

Meanwhile....Deshaun Cosby gets accused of sexual assault by 24+ women, INCLUDING allegations of coerced oral and sexual intercourse.  DA seeks TEN indictments.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.  Watson will probably rub his dick on another unwillingly girl before the suspension is up.


gut Senior Member
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Sat, Aug 20, 2022 1:27 AM

Two women accused Ben.  One was a mental patient, and the second probably never happens without the first.

But with serial predators, handfuls - if not dozens - of victims come forward.  That was the case with Weinstein, Cosby...and Watson.

We can debate whether Ben was a serial sexual assaulter.  He clearly was not.  But Watson clearly is.

gut Senior Member
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Sat, Aug 20, 2022 1:28 AM
posted by BR1986FB

The biggest issue with bringing in Jimmy G is a potential locker room divide.

LOL.  What would they be divided over?  Playing with a rapist?!?
BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sat, Aug 20, 2022 10:27 AM
posted by gut

You're an apologist, and maybe an idiot.  You support an actual serial sexual assaulter, and are trying to equivocate.  Stop pretending like he isn't as bad as Cosby or Weinstein.  Completely different league.  Ben was accused by one or two drunk sluts.  Fact.  Watson is a serial sexual predator.  Fact.

Let me educate you on the serial sexual assaulter otherwise known as Deshaun Cosby.

Roethlisberger was never arrested, never charged.   He was accused of rape, years later, by a literal mental patient.  No one believed her, and it was pretty much ignored.

A few years later, a few sorority chicks in GA google him, find out he's in town...and also that a mental patient filed a civil suit for rape.  They proceed to follow him around to numerous bars.  DTF (that means down-to-fuck, yes she was wearing a nametag) drunken sorority girl goes willingly with him to a bathroom.  Later, her mother hen drunk and obnoxious sorority sister [note, not DTF girl] accuses Ben of rape.  Cops laugh, until said mother hen leaks it to TMZ.  DA later scolds drunk and irresponsible parties for wasting his time.  No evidence, no charges of rape.

Meanwhile....Deshaun Cosby gets accused of sexual assault by 24+ women, INCLUDING allegations of coerced oral and sexual intercourse.  DA seeks TEN indictments.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.  Watson will probably rub his dick on another unwillingly girl before the suspension is up.


Ha...funny how Ben's accusers are "drunk sluts" while apparently Watson's accusers are "credible, upstanding citizens with no chance of being gold diggers."

You believe innocence (towards Ben) in your jaded little world, when it's known he tried that Georgia stunt on a few occasions in Pittsburgh and probably when he was in college.

His behavior was SO out of control that the Rooney's, after deciding not to TRADE his perverted ass, WANTED him suspended.

Unlike you (towards Ben, BTW....I have a bridge I'd like to sell you in Brooklyn along with some nice waterfront property in the Florida Everglades), I've NEVER said Watson was innocent of this. He likely did something out of line with "maybe" 3-4 of these women but 24-26? Nah....that was Buzbee recruiting for a money grab.

Anoint your fat fuck rapist QB to sainthood all you want, a rapist is a rapist. And I've seen NO accusations of rape toward Watson.

jmog Senior Member
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Sat, Aug 20, 2022 9:09 PM
posted by gut

You're an apologist, and maybe an idiot.  You support an actual serial sexual assaulter, and are trying to equivocate.  Stop pretending like he isn't as bad as Cosby or Weinstein.  Completely different league.  Ben was accused by one or two drunk sluts.  Fact.  Watson is a serial sexual predator.  Fact.

Let me educate you on the serial sexual assaulter otherwise known as Deshaun Cosby.

Roethlisberger was never arrested, never charged.   He was accused of rape, years later, by a literal mental patient.  No one believed her, and it was pretty much ignored.

A few years later, a few sorority chicks in GA google him, find out he's in town...and also that a mental patient filed a civil suit for rape.  They proceed to follow him around to numerous bars.  DTF (that means down-to-fuck, yes she was wearing a nametag) drunken sorority girl goes willingly with him to a bathroom.  Later, her mother hen drunk and obnoxious sorority sister [note, not DTF girl] accuses Ben of rape.  Cops laugh, until said mother hen leaks it to TMZ.  DA later scolds drunk and irresponsible parties for wasting his time.  No evidence, no charges of rape.

Meanwhile....Deshaun Cosby gets accused of sexual assault by 24+ women, INCLUDING allegations of coerced oral and sexual intercourse.  DA seeks TEN indictments.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.  Watson will probably rub his dick on another unwillingly girl before the suspension is up.


No way you have paid ANY attention to the Watson case. 


If you did you are lying right through your teeth about his case.


Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Aug 21, 2022 6:40 PM

Devon Allen showed off his track speed

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Sun, Aug 21, 2022 8:13 PM

This thread should be renamed “Why your sexual predator is way worse than ours”.

sportchampps Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 22, 2022 2:10 PM

You two just show the mental gymnastics a fan will go thru to defend their players.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Mon, Aug 22, 2022 3:28 PM

I’m glad my QB is banging MILFs with their consent. 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 22, 2022 4:00 PM

Who could have guessed:



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Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 22, 2022 5:07 PM
posted by QuakerOats

Who could have guessed:



AMTA 2022 National Convention

The AMTA 2022 National Convention will be held in Cleveland, Ohio August 25-27. Reconnect with your massage therapy community, hear from inspiring speakers and get hands-on training in new techniques.


BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Aug 23, 2022 8:47 AM

Pretty sad that the thing I'm most excited to see out of the Browns in the early going is their rookie kicker, Cade York. Think he's going to be the answer to what the Bengals got last year out of their rookie kicker.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Aug 24, 2022 1:01 PM

Browns fans raise your glasses...

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Wed, Aug 24, 2022 1:13 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Browns fans raise your glasses...

the HOF has to know better lol. That will be a bad year for HOF if they put him in. 

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Wed, Aug 24, 2022 1:29 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Browns fans raise your glasses...

His two biggest claims to fame:

  1. Moving the Browns
  2. Firing Paul Brown


Great legacy.

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