Baseball Lockout

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 29 reps Joined Oct 2010
Wed, Dec 1, 2021 9:09 PM

We’ll, this looks imminent. Do the powers that be in this sport even comprehend how irrelevant it has become?  From the national obsession to having a World Series where the average person couldn’t tell you who played, who won. A series in which the paramount game’s tv audience was easily outnumbered by a routine NFL regular season game. 


If baseball went away, would anyone care?


Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 151 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Dec 1, 2021 9:17 PM

Dumb

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 230 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Dec 1, 2021 9:21 PM

Yes, I would care.

Heretic Son of the Sun
20,517 posts 195 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Dec 1, 2021 10:07 PM

I would care a lot. Next question.

33,369 posts 124 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Dec 2, 2021 12:40 AM

I would hate not having baseball.

Using NFL (or CFB) as comparison is unfair to baseball. Football smokes everything. But yes, baseball has become way to regionalized and their ratings are terrible nationally. They have a problem.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 318 reps Joined Apr 2010
Thu, Dec 2, 2021 6:31 AM

Good thing the MLB ended racism prior to this lockout.

ernest_t_bass 12th Son of the Lama
26,698 posts 201 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Dec 2, 2021 1:00 PM

I had zero interest in the World Series.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 29 reps Joined Oct 2010
Thu, Dec 2, 2021 1:33 PM

I used to be a big baseball fan.  Grew up an Indians fan and there's where my loyalty will always lay.  But the sport has increasingly seemed to make itself irrelevant as evidenced by its shrinking audience.  Not just compared to the NFL, but also compare to where baseball was 15-20 years ago.  It's fan base skews older which doesn't bode well for it's prospects in another 20 years.  A labor stoppage - regardless of who is responsible - is needed like a hole in the head.  

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 151 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Dec 2, 2021 11:31 PM

I love it.


Hated the using 9 pitchers in most playoff games but still love the game greatly.

NFL had fewest viewers watch SB since 2007 (I think I read that, my apologies if I’m unspoken)

sportchampps Senior Member
7,527 posts 34 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Dec 3, 2021 1:08 AM

As a reds fan I have hope and we get to watch future stars before we can’t afford them. If you want to bring baseball back it needs a true salary cap so more then 6-8 teams truly have a chance to win

ernest_t_bass 12th Son of the Lama
26,698 posts 201 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Dec 3, 2021 12:51 PM

Bally's Sports app HAS helped me regain my interest in the Reds, however.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 29 reps Joined Oct 2010
Fri, Dec 3, 2021 12:54 PM

I love the game of baseball.  But MLB has done everything to shoot itself in the foot repeatedly.  Salary cap would be a good start. 

cat_lover Senior Member
3,629 posts 44 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Dec 3, 2021 9:26 PM

I would miss baseball.


queencitybuckeye Senior Member
8,068 posts 117 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sat, Dec 4, 2021 7:35 AM

All of the metrics show the "right" way to play the game. Unfortunately for me, it creates a game that just isn't very interesting to watch.

ernest_t_bass 12th Son of the Lama
26,698 posts 201 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sat, Dec 4, 2021 7:14 PM

In my opinion, analytics has ruined the professional basketball and baseball games.

33,369 posts 124 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sat, Dec 4, 2021 9:47 PM

Baseball just needs to ban the shift and see how much it helps. No guarantee, but might as well try.

Gardens35 Senior Member
5,888 posts 38 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sat, Dec 4, 2021 10:09 PM
posted by Laley23

Baseball just needs to ban the shift and see how much it helps. No guarantee, but might as well try.

Yep, and lower the mound. They also need to take serious steps to shorten the duration of games.


Contrary to most, I like the 7 inning double headers and the automatic runner in extra innings. I'd also like to see both leagues be the same regarding the DH, either have one or not.


I want to see the Cleveland team get a new name, straight up......Guardians sucks, and it's not going to have long term staying power at all.

33,369 posts 124 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Dec 5, 2021 11:28 AM
posted by Gardens35

Yep, and lower the mound. They also need to take serious steps to shorten the duration of games.

I didn’t look at any of the findings, but believe they tested the mound being moved back in some minor league’s. A few feet back was going to add about a 1/10th a second of reaction time; which would make it similar to what hitters had in the 90s when average fastballs were like 91-92 and not 94-95.
justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 230 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Dec 5, 2021 11:33 AM

Gimme universal DH. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
9,465 posts 90 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Dec 5, 2021 12:12 PM
posted by Laley23

Baseball just needs to ban the shift and see how much it helps. No guarantee, but might as well try.

How would it help? I haven’t heard any good reason to ban the shift.


Gardens35 Senior Member
5,888 posts 38 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Dec 5, 2021 1:00 PM

For me, eliminating the shift would add more base runners and scoring opportunities. On the other side, it would make for more double plays and defensive "Gems". The things that I like to see when watching a ball game.


The MLB game has become more boring than ever and the "Shift" doesn't help at all. Ground out after ground out after ground out, some of which would have been clean hits. Of course, it doesn't help the game that batters are content with striking out 150+ times as long as they can hit 20 home runs (18 of 'em insignificant) a season.


The season is too long too.



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