posted by kizer permanente
I could never do a fly with what I can bench. So if I go down to what I can fly, is it helping much for bench?
I don't really look at flyes as an assistance lift as much as a sculpting type move. If you're looking for stuff to help your bench you're looking at moves like flat dumbbell presses (heavy), close grip bench press (triceps), dips (weighted even better for chest/triceps) and shoulder presses (front delts). If you increase weight in those, it will help your bench.
When I do that combo move I mentioned I have to significantly decrease the weight. A regular DB press might be with 100-120 lb dumbbells where that press/fly movement will likely drop the weight down to 30's & 40's. You don't want to go heavy on a fly movement because of potential shoulder issues. I'm not strong on flyes either.
I also forgot to add back movements like bent rows and heavy dumbbell rows as bench press assistance moves. May sound dumb but you have to have a strong base to bench off of and your lats play a big part in a big bench. It took me years to learn how to utilize back strength to get a big bench. The width of your grip when you bench also plays into how much you can do.