Protests, Riots, Police trashiness cont.

posted by geeblock

I feel like even after seeing the video people are still defending the girl and calling the cop a murderer. I’m currently getting attacked on fb for calling it a sad but legal shooting. If the movement is going to maintain credibility these shootings have to be looked at individually. Cops aren’t going to try to taze a person with a knife trying to stab someone even if you are the one who called them 

For once you and I are in 100% agreement  

I sad the exact same thing on FB, that it is a tragic situation but it was a perfectly legitimate police shooting.

I was called ignorant and racist.

And it was the same people who agreed with me on Chauvin, that what he did deserved a conviction although I wasn’t a legal scholar to know if it was manslaughter or murder 2. 

posted by Spock

https://www.foxnews.com/media/neighbor-with-footage-of-makhia-bryant-shooting-the-video-doesnt-lie

Cop rolls up and within seconds he has to deal with a brawl with a weapon involved.  

I've noticed the last few days the gap between what is reported at the national level and what is reported here in Columbus. The Dispatch, nbc4, 10tv, abc6 all have a fuller more complete pictures of what actually happened than the national news. I know that is typically the case, but in this incident it is jarring. 

I know some of you on here will say duh, but I think it also goes to the need for local reporting as things get lost or framed incompletely under a national news outlet/ website, etc. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah, everyone that jumped to conclusions without the video has egg on their face now. 

Although, I do see people saying well the cop should have done more or used nonlethal means, which does not make sense, given how he rolled up to the situation. 

I'm all for the reduction of use of deadly force. If anything, I think the focus should be more why the cops did not get there sooner? The time between the 911 and the cops getting there was 10-15 mins. Could that have been decreased? I think if the cops get there sooner, the deadly event may have been prevented.  It was just the fact this guy rolled into a hostile situation and had to use force. 

So you are saying you want more cops and more patrols for faster response time?

Welcome to the conservative side, we welcome you...actually, I am more libertarian and while I support the police I don't think we need more of them.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Borderline language there man. 

Even neighbors that were interviewed thought it was just a typical girl fight. It was the knife that escalated things. I agree it is on the neighborhood and others to try and de-escalate the situation so a weapon is not involved. But, if someone of authority, cop or social worker, was there quicker it could have, could being the word, prevented this from the tragic ending. 

There is also the aspect she was a trouble foster kid and how did she become one that led her to this situation. 

You keep using "social worker" like someone was going to talk the girl down from attempting to murder someone with a knife in the 10 seconds the cop had to handle the situation. You don't bring a social worker to a knife fight.  

posted by jmog

So you are saying you want more cops and more patrols for faster response time?

Welcome to the conservative side, we welcome you...actually, I am more libertarian and while I support the police I don't think we need more of them.

Your definition of a cop and mine I think may be different....

I'm more referring to community presence local friendly member of the community cop. Not ones that only arrive when things go bad. 

posted by jmog

You keep using "social worker" like someone was going to talk the girl down from attempting to murder someone with a knife in the 10 seconds the cop had to handle the situation. You don't bring a social worker to a knife fight.  

A social worker 10 seconds before that would not have helped yes, but one that is there 5 mins or 10 mins before the cop rolled up could have, emphasis on could, prevented the escalation and death. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

A social worker 10 seconds before that would not have helped yes, but one that is there 5 mins or 10 mins before the cop rolled up could have, emphasis on could, prevented the escalation and death. 

Do you think social workers have super powers? Just wondering how you think talking was going to stop that brawl from becoming a knife fight?

posted by ptown_trojans_1

If you listen to the 911 call, and then other body cams, you get the full picture. 

Oh for this one we need context....got it.

We are debating whether a social worker or a cop is needed at the scene of a domestic dispute over someone cleaning a house.  Why can’t adults handle their private business without needing a cop or a weapon?

posted by ptown_trojans_1

A social worker 10 seconds before that would not have helped yes, but one that is there 5 mins or 10 mins before the cop rolled up could have, emphasis on could, prevented the escalation and death. 

I can see a lot going wrong with sending an unarmed civilian into a situation where a criminal has a weapon.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

A social worker 10 seconds before that would not have helped yes, but one that is there 5 mins or 10 mins before the cop rolled up could have, emphasis on could, prevented the escalation and death. 

I really don't know how anyone who lived in DC can actually believe this.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Your definition of a cop and mine I think may be different....

I'm more referring to community presence local friendly member of the community cop. Not ones that only arrive when things go bad. 

Yeah, this will work. LOL...maybe they should bring some ponies & rainbows with them too?

posted by BR1986FB

Yeah, this will work. LOL...maybe they should bring some ponies & rainbows with them too?

They will be cross-trained by Chuck Norris and Dr. Phil.  We need outside the box solutions!

But therapy animals and balloons is also a good start.

posted by gut

They will be cross-trained by Chuck Norris and Dr. Phil.  We need outside the box solutions!

But therapy animals and balloons is also a good start.

posted by jmog

You keep using "social worker" like someone was going to talk the girl down from attempting to murder someone with a knife in the 10 seconds the cop had to handle the situation. You don't bring a social worker to a knife fight.  

Make that 3 seconds

posted by Fletch

We are debating whether a social worker or a cop is needed at the scene of a domestic dispute over someone cleaning a house.  Why can’t adults handle their private business without needing a cop or a weapon?

Basically what the left wants is for cops to not respond to these calls altogether.

I sort of agree with that.  Every person at the scene had an option to leave and didnt.  When a cop has to arrive at a house because someone didnt clean it, sorry but citizens lose their right to treated like adults at that point.

Well, here we go again.  Judge in NC blocked the release of the recent police shooting footage for 30 days.  Meanwhile, the family and their attorney will get to review the tape within the next 10 days.

But I'm confident the honest and honorable Ben Crump will not use that to his advantage to inflame the narrative.

Should we expect a "you're next" tweet from LeBron directed to the killer of the teenage girl who died in Bicentennial Park in Columbus this past weekend?  BLM - only if they're shot by white police I guess. 

I’ll bring this thread back bc the cunts in Portland and the northwest are still breaking stuff. “White supremacy” still isn’t the things you have to be scared of. 

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-beaten-to-death-by-fellow-cops-during-exercise-on-how-to-respond-to-civilian-unrest-lawsuit/