Protests, Riots, Police trashiness cont.

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jun 17, 2020 12:00 PM
posted by justincredible

Is Uncle Ben problematic as well?

Probably....yeah that Uncle and Auntie is linked to that slavery/ Jim Crow era naming. Same meaning as say calling an African American, "boy" 

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 12:13 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

I agree with your overall sentiment but Gundy’s thing was just so dumb and unnecessary. You put a shirt on in the morning and best case scenario no one really notices it. Worst case you offend people most important to your job, which he managed to do. Just poor judgement on his part. Also, prominent college coach or not, everyone knows that network is trash so why even support it in the first place. 

Very dumb on his part. You coach a team with a lot of black guys and are in a situation where you're looked at as a leader and wear a shirt sponsoring a TV station that refers to BLM as a farce during a time when black people are very upset about racism/brutality. At minimum, completely tone-deaf. At least, things have progressed in a productive fashion with stud player calling him out publicly and then more private talks between he and the team have happened and the typical "need to be better" sort of spiel afterwards.

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 12:26 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I mean if we are going this route....can we just cancel the entire Ole Miss University...

Save Vandy and UF, the entire SEC can be cancelled due to them being educational jokes.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 12:40 PM

https://twitter.com/Respectheshoota/status/1273105772453466114

WTF is going on here? Why is the dude apologizing and not fighting back?

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 12:52 PM
posted by justincredible

https://twitter.com/Respectheshoota/status/1273105772453466114

WTF is going on here? Why is the dude apologizing and not fighting back?

Looks like he got sucker-punched by someone much younger and fitter than him. Probably caught by surprise, but also probably not capable of defending himself in the situation, anyways. 

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 12:55 PM

Dude's pants are a liability. Give them a yank, trip the jackass, and run at the very least. The dude is bigger than I am, but I'm not going to sit there and grovel.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 1:03 PM

I don't know about everyone else, but my fight or flight instinct is STRONG. If you want to beat my ass you're going to have to work for it.

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 1:11 PM
posted by justincredible

I don't know about everyone else, but my fight or flight instinct is STRONG. If you want to beat my ass you're going to have to work for it.

Unless the blow got me completely disoriented, he'd be taking the room temperature challenge.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 1:12 PM
posted by justincredible

I don't know about everyone else, but my fight or flight instinct is STRONG. If you want to beat my ass you're going to have to work for it.

Another advertisement for carry and conceal.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 1:17 PM
posted by justincredible

I don't know about everyone else, but my fight or flight instinct is STRONG. If you want to beat my ass you're going to have to work for it.

This guy appears neutered.  A good video to show a son when the topic of how to deal with a bully comes up.  My old man told me a bully "must" be hit back even if you lose the overall fight.  

 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 1:27 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

I agree with your overall sentiment but Gundy’s thing was just so dumb and unnecessary. You put a shirt on in the morning and best case scenario no one really notices it. Worst case you offend people most important to your job, which he managed to do. Just poor judgement on his part. Also, prominent college coach or not, everyone knows that network is trash so why even support it in the first place. 

Naw fuck that, I can't even get behind calling it dumb and unnecessary.  The dude just put a shirt on.  GOD FORBID!! People would have cried if he wore a FOX News shirt too.  I can't imagine in this current climate that people would try to cancel him if he wore a huffington post shirt (or various other trash left leaning sources, but if they did, that would be trash too.  I am willing to bet 100% of those players on that roster have heard and seen worse.  

thavoice Senior Member
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 1:35 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

It is also the name...Aunt Jemima is in the same ballpark as say Uncle Tom or any other Minstrel Show type. 

Mrs Butterworth safe?

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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 2:13 PM
posted by justincredible

Dixie Chicks are up next.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/17/is-it-time-for-the-dixie-chicks-to-rethink-their-name/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow

I thought of them after the Lady A. thing. My wife is a big Chicks fan, been one since day 1. Her thoughts were they would just shorten the name to the Chicks as everyone already knows who they are. They have a new album coming out soon and may change it then or once they go back out on tour. 

 

posted by like_that

Naw fuck that, I can't even get behind calling it dumb and unnecessary.  The dude just put a shirt on.  GOD FORBID!! People would have cried if he wore a FOX News shirt too.  I can't imagine in this current climate that people would try to cancel him if he wore a huffington post shirt (or various other trash left leaning sources, but if they did, that would be trash too.  I am willing to bet 100% of those players on that roster have heard and seen worse.  

 

It was OAN... they are fucking nuts and crazy that put out some crazy conspiracy theories about the protests. It was not cancel culture from angry liberals. It was the players saying nope, that is too far and we need to talk about this.  I mean he might as well as had on a QAnon shirt. Given the current client, players are using their platform to encourage change and dialogue. I don't see how this is a bad thing. 

posted by thavoice

Mrs Butterworth safe?

Maybe. Maybe not. If it even sounds quasi racist, firms should just change their names now. As I've said in other threads, this is a larger discussion about eliminating any vestuges of language from Lost Cause/ Jim Crow times. 
 

 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 2:28 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I thought of them after the Lady A. thing. My wife is a big Chicks fan, been one since day 1. Her thoughts were they would just shorten the name to the Chicks as everyone already knows who they are. They have a new album coming out soon and may change it then or once they go back out on tour. 

 

posted by like_that

Naw fuck that, I can't even get behind calling it dumb and unnecessary.  The dude just put a shirt on.  GOD FORBID!! People would have cried if he wore a FOX News shirt too.  I can't imagine in this current climate that people would try to cancel him if he wore a huffington post shirt (or various other trash left leaning sources, but if they did, that would be trash too.  I am willing to bet 100% of those players on that roster have heard and seen worse.  

 

It was OAN... they are fucking nuts and crazy that put out some crazy conspiracy theories about the protests. It was not cancel culture from angry liberals. It was the players saying nope, that is too far and we need to talk about this.  I mean he might as well as had on a QAnon shirt. Given the current client, players are using their platform to encourage change and dialogue. I don't see how this is a bad thing. 

posted by thavoice

Mrs Butterworth safe?

Maybe. Maybe not. If it even sounds quasi racist, firms should just change their names now. As I've said in other threads, this is a larger discussion about eliminating any vestuges of language from Lost Cause/ Jim Crow times. 
 

 

So does/is CNN.  Should we cry when someone wears a CNN shirt now? Like I said, I would bet anything we would see the same reaction if he wore a FOX News shirt.   Hell, there is plenty of time for it to happen.  I would not be shocked.  Don't be so naive. 

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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 2:36 PM
posted by like_that

So does/is CNN.  Should we cry when someone wears a CNN shirt now? Like I said, I would bet anything we would see the same reaction if he wore a FOX News shirt.   Hell, there is plenty of time for it to happen.  I would not be shocked.  Don't be so naive. 

If players get upset at a coach for wearing a CNN or Fox shirt, then we can talk.....

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geeblock Member
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 2:52 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

If players get upset at a coach for wearing a CNN or Fox shirt, then we can talk.....

Exactly. Usually the people (not speaking particularly about like that) That say well let’s  just make everything about race/racist  usually have a problem saying anything is about race/racist. They often use nonsensical examples that don’t happen or wouldn’t happen ie. Let’s remove MLK statues because... blah blah blah  

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thavoice Senior Member
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Wed, Jun 17, 2020 3:03 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Guys, what the hell?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/16/bethel-ohio-black-lives-counterprotest/ 

The mean streets of Bethel just got meaner!

 

No news coverage of the protests in Johnstown, NE of Columbus.  However, the only thing that was going to be in danger of those well fed white women was any buffet in the area....

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