Measles Outbreaks/Vaccination Discussion

SportsAndLady Senior Member

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Tue, Apr 9, 2019 9:36 PM

Curious everyone's thoughts on this.

There's another measles outbreak, this time in NYC. That is now the 19th state to experience a measles outbreak.

Measles were practically eliminated in 2000; now in 2019, there have been upwards of 500 cases.

In a lot of these outbreaks, the reason for the outbreak can be linked to someone who was never vaccinated.

So we debate...should vaccinations be mandatory?

gut Senior Member

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Tue, Apr 9, 2019 9:47 PM

Yes. I really can't see any debate here. It's a public health issue.

LOL @ the "anti-vaxers".

SportsAndLady Senior Member

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Tue, Apr 9, 2019 10:01 PM

posted by gut
Yes. I really can't see any debate here. It's a public health issue.

LOL @ the "anti-vaxers".

This radio station in Chicago does a “March madness bracket” of “terrible human beings” every year. Ranks terrible people 1-16 and does a bracket. Anti vaxxers were a 14 seed and won the tournament. Lol

kizer permanente Senior Member

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Tue, Apr 9, 2019 10:37 PM

Yes and if your child dies from your negligence of not vaccinating them, you should be prosecuted.

Laley23 GOAT

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 1:13 AM

Yes. Who is the idiot who didnt vote for it to be law? As Gut said...public health issue. This shouldnt be a debate, but welcome to America in 2019.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 6:44 AM

I can see the argument why some would say no to it being a law, but I voted yes.

Rotinaj Senior Member

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 7:25 AM

posted by like_that
I can see the argument why some would say no to it being a law, but I voted yes.

Same. I'd be a bit worried about what all they would be throwing into this law.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 7:49 AM

posted by Rotinaj
Same. I'd be a bit worried about what all they would be throwing into this law.

Yeah, I am not going to hate on anyone or call him/her an idiot if he/she says it shouldn't be a law. Now, if he/she is an anti-vaxer, then he/she is an idiot.

Zunardo Senior Member

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 7:55 AM

Maybe we should mandate students to be exposed to essential oils instead.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 8:08 AM

posted by Zunardo
Maybe we should mandate students to be exposed to essential oils instead.

lol, do anti-vaxers recommend this over vaccnations?

Zunardo Senior Member

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 9:16 AM

posted by like_that
lol, do anti-vaxers recommend this over vaccnations?

In my un-scientific observation, most of the anti-vaxxers I know are also sales reps for essential oils, or at least push the stuff heavily on social media. Shoot, they're going to EO conventions. I didn't know this was a thing until six months ago.

I can't say all essential oil fans I know are necessarily anti-vaxxers, although the association between the two is interesting.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 9:57 AM

Update to the origin of this thread. It looks like NYC is mandating vaccinations. I wonder if this will be taken to court.

https://abc7ny.com/health/measles-outbreak-nyc-orders-mandatory-vaccines-for-some/5239006/

QuakerOats Senior Member

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 10:22 AM

How much of this outbreak, along with other potential health crisis, are due to the ‘open’ border?

queencitybuckeye Senior Member

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 10:24 AM

posted by QuakerOats
How much of this outbreak, along with other potential health crisis, are due to the ‘open’ border?

None.

kizer permanente Senior Member

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 10:26 AM

posted by QuakerOats
How much of this outbreak, along with other potential health crisis, are due to the ‘open’ border?

Does the 'open' border keep Americans from vaccinating kids?

Then none.

Fab4Runner Tits McGee

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 10:28 AM

Send people who do not vaccinate their children to prison.

gut Senior Member

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 10:35 AM

Law or no law, it seems like doors would start closing if not getting vacinated became a thing. Could public schools require vaccinations without it being a law? Hard to say, but let's just assume these people are instead homeschooled. There must be something to this, because it seems I had to provide immunizations records to both undergrad and grad school, so maybe they can refuse admittance even if it's not the law of the land.

But then, down the road, is it that hard to imagine businesses - and particularly hospitals - blackballing people who aren't vaccinated?

QuakerOats Senior Member

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 10:42 AM

posted by queencitybuckeye
None.

LOL

SportsAndLady Senior Member

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 10:48 AM

posted by QuakerOats

LOL

This is in the SB forum and not the politics forum for a reason. And that reason is to keep the politards like you from turning this into “muh lawd and savior trump gonna prevent the outbreak of measles by closing dem bordahs!”

So kindly leave.

ernest_t_bass 12th Son of the Lama

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 11:03 AM

Shouldn't be a law to do so, but you I would be 100% OK of prohibiting anti-vaxers from public places like schools. Making people 100% liable for their negligence on 1) their children and 2) other people. I have no idea how you would do all this, but a law making people vaccinate just doesn't sit right with me. But I AM in the camp of, "You don't vaccinate, you're an idiot."

justincredible Honorable Admin

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Wed, Apr 10, 2019 11:14 AM

I was one of the idiots that voted no. I'm not anti-vaxx, and like others believe that if you don't vaccinate you're likely an idiot. But that doesn't mean I have to agree that government force is the only, or right, answer.

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