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Larry Nassar

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Laley23 GOAT
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Tue, Jan 23, 2018 3:18 PM

First, what a sick and demented individual. But, moving past that and onto the coverage...how has this not surpassed the PSU stuff? It’s barely a ripple compared to Penn St., and at the very least is equal to, more likely worse.

Pretty sad that because it’s gymnastics and not Division 1 football it doesn’t get the coverage that it “deserves”.

Fab4Runner Tits McGee
6,997 posts 64 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Jan 23, 2018 3:38 PM

You answered your own question. It's women and gymnastics instead of boys and football. 

But yeah. Fuck that dude. 
thavoice Senior Member
15,437 posts 42 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Jan 23, 2018 3:55 PM

Haven'tfollowed it much but has there been the supposed cover up thst we saw at PSU?

 

But yeah, gymnastic and it did not include an iconic coach is why it's not as big.

Plus I think people have a little bit of fatigue on the subject
OSH Kosh B'Gosh
4,424 posts 18 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Jan 23, 2018 4:13 PM

Absolute trash. It's a shame the media and sponsors haven't followed suit in making a stink.
friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Tue, Jan 23, 2018 4:16 PM

http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/22046031/michigan-state-university-doctor-larry-nassar-surrounded-enablers-abused-athletes-espn

Everyone should read this to get an idea of just how deep it went and how many people were involved/aided this. The list is crazy. Police officers, East Lansing gymnastics club coaches, MSU college of medicine employees, athletic trainers, and even the dean of the college. Everyone at Karolyi Ranch. USA gymnastics. Nassar even manipulated parents to remain silent when they accused him of it. 
gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 117 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Jan 23, 2018 4:43 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

Nassar even manipulated parents to remain silent when they accused him of it. 

Even sadder part is....he's a medical doc.  Very replaceable.  If you had a hint something was improper, he's gone tomorrow.

But I think the key was he is that he was a master manipulator - probably seemed very honest, sincere and convincing.  Still, dealing with kids there's 0 tolerance and it's beyond shocking what went on.

I don't really want to expain it or guess....but I assume by the time those around him knew there was a serious problem, they felt complicit and guilty.  I thnk the guilt and denial are why you don't fire him or go to the authorities - you have to believe nothing happened to sleep at night.
MontyBrunswick Senior Member
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Tue, Jan 23, 2018 5:56 PM
posted by Laley23

First, what a sick and demented individual. But, moving past that and onto the coverage...how has this not surpassed the PSU stuff? It’s barely a ripple compared to Penn St., and at the very least is equal to, more likely worse.

 

i don't know about worse. sandusky literally setup a charity so he could exploit vulnerable kids. 

i mean they're both dispicable, but sandusky put in a little more work to be a piece of shit. 

you'd think the media would be all over it with the high profile athletes coming out, but they might be fatigued a bit from the Hollywood sex scandal stuff 
Spock Senior Member
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Tue, Jan 23, 2018 6:00 PM
posted by gut

Even sadder part is....he's a medical doc.  Very replaceable.  If you had a hint something was improper, he's gone tomorrow.

But I think the key was he is that he was a master manipulator - probably seemed very honest, sincere and convincing.  Still, dealing with kids there's 0 tolerance and it's beyond shocking what went on.

I don't really want to expain it or guess....but I assume by the time those around him knew there was a serious problem, they felt complicit and guilty.  I thnk the guilt and denial are why you don't fire him or go to the authorities - you have to believe nothing happened to sleep at night.

How did that sincere conversation go?  "  yes ma'am i had to insert my finger in her ×&!\÷=*.  It was for a reason".
Laley23 GOAT
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Tue, Jan 23, 2018 7:13 PM
posted by MontyBrunswick

i don't know about worse. sandusky literally setup a charity so he could exploit vulnerable kids. 

i mean they're both dispicable, but sandusky put in a little more work to be a piece of shit. 

you'd think the media would be all over it with the high profile athletes coming out, but they might be fatigued a bit from the Hollywood sex scandal stuff 

Don’t want to argue which is worse, for obvious reasons. But for clarity, I didn’t mean the human. I meant the institutional cover up and the amount of people, years, amount of girls, etc. Not necessarily Nassar/Sandusky 
friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Tue, Jan 23, 2018 7:13 PM
posted by Spock

How did that sincere conversation go?  "  yes ma'am i had to insert my finger in her ×&!\÷=*.  It was for a reason".

If you read the article it does serve a medical purpose. It should just be done wearing gloves, with others present, and prior consent given -- none of which Nassar did. 
Spock Senior Member
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Tue, Jan 23, 2018 7:54 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

If you read the article it does serve a medical purpose. It should just be done wearing gloves, with others present, and prior consent given -- none of which Nassar did. 

Come on....you know better than that.  You are in medicine.  Young girls need to be penetrated for any reason?????  What possible medical excuse could he use gloves or not?
friendfromlowry Senior Member
7,778 posts 87 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Jan 23, 2018 8:06 PM
posted by Spock

Come on....you know better than that.  You are in medicine.  Young girls need to be penetrated for any reason?????  What possible medical excuse could he use gloves or not?

Doctors interviewed by Outside the Lines say intravaginal and intrarectal treatments have been used for decades to treat medical problems such as pelvic floor dysfunction, which can occur when muscles on the pelvic floor become weak or tight.

Just telling you what the doctors said. 

Also, my position in healthcare does not at all qualifiy me to speak on the validitiy of this particular practice. You of all people should know that. 
Verbal Kint Senior Member
1,062 posts 16 reps Joined Jul 2017
Tue, Jan 23, 2018 10:31 PM

Been following, POS.  Good for these women/girls being strong and standing up for themselves.
FatHobbit Senior Member
9,058 posts 68 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Jan 23, 2018 11:13 PM
posted by Laley23

First, what a sick and demented individual. But, moving past that and onto the coverage...how has this not surpassed the PSU stuff? It’s barely a ripple compared to Penn St., and at the very least is equal to, more likely worse.

Pretty sad that because it’s gymnastics and not Division 1 football it doesn’t get the coverage that it “deserves”.

I haven't really followed this but doesn't it seem like MSU actively tried to quiet this? I feel like they did more than PSU did. 
Laley23 GOAT
33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Jan 23, 2018 11:44 PM
posted by FatHobbit

I haven't really followed this but doesn't it seem like MSU actively tried to quiet this? I feel like they did more than PSU did. 

No, they did. The president of the university was told a few times. People in positions to stop it were told by the gymnasts quite a few times.
Heretic Son of the Sun
20,517 posts 204 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jan 24, 2018 11:24 AM

But hey, the president of MSU during all this has done a fuck of a lot of fundraising for the university, so they've already said they're not doing shit about her complicity.
Laley23 GOAT
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Wed, Jan 24, 2018 11:48 AM
posted by FatHobbit

I haven't really followed this but doesn't it seem like MSU actively tried to quiet this? I feel like they did more than PSU did. 

Good article by Greg Doyel about Michigan State covering this up for years, intentional or not.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2018/01/22/doyel-like-penn-state-sandusky-michigan-state-failed-stop-nassar/1054245001/
Con_Alma Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 24, 2018 12:46 PM

Sentenced up to 175 years.
Fab4Runner Tits McGee
6,997 posts 64 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jan 24, 2018 12:49 PM

Judge Aquilina is my queen. 
justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 250 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Jan 24, 2018 1:25 PM

Man, this entire situation is messed up, but I can't get over the fact that he abused these girls with their parents in the room on occasion. 
wkfan Senior Member
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Wed, Jan 24, 2018 3:36 PM

There is a special place in hell for this guy.....

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