Supply chain issues

ernest_t_bass 12th Son of the Lama
26,698 posts 200 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Oct 10, 2021 1:26 PM

I've seen a number of different "maps."  I have no idea if ANYTHING I see is true or manufactured, anymore.

gut Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 2:04 PM
posted by ernest_t_bass

I've seen a number of different "maps."  I have no idea if ANYTHING I see is true or manufactured, anymore.

Not sure about the other ports, but a few on the WC are definitely a mess.  Saw an article the other day that was saying how the crews on these ships have like no food, no water, no money and nowhere to go.  Seems like that's probably an exagerration, though.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 4:33 PM
posted by gut

Not sure about the other ports, but a few on the WC are definitely a mess.  Saw an article the other day that was saying how the crews on these ships have like no food, no water, no money and nowhere to go.  Seems like that's probably an exagerration, though.

Yeah that’s not the nature of Americans. Most insist on helping hungry folks in situations they can’t control.


Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 4:40 PM
posted by iclfan2

I’m not convinced the east coast backup is that bad. CHS is about the 6th ranked port in the US and I drive past it everyday. There are not ships just sitting around. 

Ships are not sitting delayed in the Great Lakes either.  I can also say the port of Mobile is not significantly delayed.  


justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 216 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Oct 10, 2021 5:19 PM

Perhaps the map isn't as bad as it looks zoomed out like that. I did see video from (apparently) the West Coast, and have heard stories corroborating said video, but it might be isolated to that area.

sportchampps Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 5:36 PM

My wife deals with this daily. She says there are so many ships here because there is nothing shipping out of the US. It’s obviously expensive for these big cargo ships to cross the ocean so they need to be filled and can’t take empty containers.


Then on the other hand now there are no cargo ships or containers in the other countries for items to be shipped over here. She said cargo containers are like gold right now. Walmart has addressed the issue by buying their own ships. 

My wife’s current company deals in high end rugs so they are demanding manufacturers fly the rugs over at the manufacturers cost because they are so far behind deadlines because of shipping issues. 

Fletch Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 5:41 PM

Lets have the military empty those ships and drive those trucks.  Get something for our tax dollars.

jmog Senior Member
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Sun, Oct 10, 2021 10:01 PM

This is a good quandary.


I am in manufacturing facilities weekly and they are all dealing with this as is my company now.


I hear from them multiple different answers from labor shortages due to no one wanting to work, to shipping delays as seen in the maps above, to deliver delays from China specifically.


To be honest I haven’t looked much into it myself, just going off what different manufacturers are telling me personally.



QuakerOats Senior Member
11,701 posts 58 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Oct 12, 2021 10:33 AM
posted by jmog

This is a good quandary.


I am in manufacturing facilities weekly and they are all dealing with this as is my company now.


I hear from them multiple different answers from labor shortages due to no one wanting to work, to shipping delays as seen in the maps above, to deliver delays from China specifically.


To be honest I haven’t looked much into it myself, just going off what different manufacturers are telling me personally.




If you're in manufacturing you have a nightmare on your hands right now.  I don't  see it getting better any time soon.  It started with paying people not to work, which continues in some form or another now, but there is also a cultural shift and other factors involved.  A vax mandate will be the nail in the coffin for many businesses.  There is no one in mfg that is not short on people by at least 10%, many 20%; their viability is coming into question, especially if they also rely on foreign supplies.  This is perhaps the most bizarre situation I've seen in my decades; of course we've never been  this close to socialism either. 

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