Supply chain issues

I've seen a number of different "maps."  I have no idea if ANYTHING I see is true or manufactured, anymore.

posted by ernest_t_bass

I've seen a number of different "maps."  I have no idea if ANYTHING I see is true or manufactured, anymore.

Not sure about the other ports, but a few on the WC are definitely a mess.  Saw an article the other day that was saying how the crews on these ships have like no food, no water, no money and nowhere to go.  Seems like that's probably an exagerration, though.

posted by gut

Not sure about the other ports, but a few on the WC are definitely a mess.  Saw an article the other day that was saying how the crews on these ships have like no food, no water, no money and nowhere to go.  Seems like that's probably an exagerration, though.

Yeah that’s not the nature of Americans. Most insist on helping hungry folks in situations they can’t control.

posted by iclfan2

I’m not convinced the east coast backup is that bad. CHS is about the 6th ranked port in the US and I drive past it everyday. There are not ships just sitting around. 

Ships are not sitting delayed in the Great Lakes either.  I can also say the port of Mobile is not significantly delayed.  

Perhaps the map isn't as bad as it looks zoomed out like that. I did see video from (apparently) the West Coast, and have heard stories corroborating said video, but it might be isolated to that area.

My wife deals with this daily. She says there are so many ships here because there is nothing shipping out of the US. It’s obviously expensive for these big cargo ships to cross the ocean so they need to be filled and can’t take empty containers.

Then on the other hand now there are no cargo ships or containers in the other countries for items to be shipped over here. She said cargo containers are like gold right now. Walmart has addressed the issue by buying their own ships. 

My wife’s current company deals in high end rugs so they are demanding manufacturers fly the rugs over at the manufacturers cost because they are so far behind deadlines because of shipping issues. 

Lets have the military empty those ships and drive those trucks.  Get something for our tax dollars.

This is a good quandary.

I am in manufacturing facilities weekly and they are all dealing with this as is my company now.

I hear from them multiple different answers from labor shortages due to no one wanting to work, to shipping delays as seen in the maps above, to deliver delays from China specifically.

To be honest I haven’t looked much into it myself, just going off what different manufacturers are telling me personally.

posted by jmog

This is a good quandary.

I am in manufacturing facilities weekly and they are all dealing with this as is my company now.

I hear from them multiple different answers from labor shortages due to no one wanting to work, to shipping delays as seen in the maps above, to deliver delays from China specifically.

To be honest I haven’t looked much into it myself, just going off what different manufacturers are telling me personally.

If you're in manufacturing you have a nightmare on your hands right now.  I don't  see it getting better any time soon.  It started with paying people not to work, which continues in some form or another now, but there is also a cultural shift and other factors involved.  A vax mandate will be the nail in the coffin for many businesses.  There is no one in mfg that is not short on people by at least 10%, many 20%; their viability is coming into question, especially if they also rely on foreign supplies.  This is perhaps the most bizarre situation I've seen in my decades; of course we've never been  this close to socialism either. 

This is probably worth paying attention to.

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posted by justincredible

This is probably worth paying attention to.

probably nothing pic.twitter.com/8AcxZkkHxs

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Yeah but seems like 3 of the last 4 shortages never really happened. I’d say we’ll have plenty they’ll just make prices outrageous 

Great times

posted by QuakerOats

If you're in manufacturing you have a nightmare on your hands right now.  I don't  see it getting better any time soon.  It started with paying people not to work, which continues in some form or another now, but there is also a cultural shift and other factors involved.  A vax mandate will be the nail in the coffin for many businesses.  There is no one in mfg that is not short on people by at least 10%, many 20%; their viability is coming into question, especially if they also rely on foreign supplies.  This is perhaps the most bizarre situation I've seen in my decades; of course we've never been  this close to socialism either. 

We will check back with you in 1-2 years and, as usual, none of your doom and gloom will have come to pass.