2023 NFL Regular Season

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 168 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Nov 2, 2023 9:50 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

So far the Will Levis experience isn’t too hateful. The Titans may have something here. 

Honestly he looks the part. Steelers were all over his ass early on and hasn’t seemed to phase him at all. Pittsburgh’s secondary isn’t even close.


33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Nov 2, 2023 10:34 PM

Levis has all the throws. But NFL QB is about 10% throws and 90% mental/preparation. 

Have to see what he does after the league has tape.

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 168 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Nov 2, 2023 11:32 PM

Nice to have Heyward back, need Minkah back too.

I’ll give Canada a B+, some dumbness but I like him better down on sideline being a part of it and not sipping drinks the whole game. Pickett missed some throws but both backs looked ok.

Not a pretty game but watchable 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Nov 3, 2023 6:15 AM
posted by Ironman92

Yeah….sure the hell looked fixed. Titans 4 first downs on 4 Steelers penalties and had a 14 play drive and hardly did anything.


Just like I said. All that matters is the end result.

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 117 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Nov 3, 2023 10:30 AM
posted by Laley23

Levis has all the throws. But NFL QB is about 10% throws and 90% mental/preparation. 

Have to see what he does after the league has tape.

I'd be about 10X more excited if he was our QB than Pickett.

Kenny looks to be building the foundation for career backup.  But his Q4 play has been inexplicably excellent.  Overall, though, his arm talent just seems to be well below average.

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Nov 3, 2023 11:41 AM

Pittsburgh has to be the worst 5-3 team of all time. Incredible they keep winning these games by getting outplayed in all 8 games. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Nov 3, 2023 11:58 AM
posted by Laley23

Pittsburgh has to be the worst 5-3 team of all time. Incredible they keep winning these games by getting outplayed in all 8 games. 

Saw a stat where they were the only team in NFL history to not outgain their opponent in yardage and have that record. Tomlin's a helluva coach regardless of what their fans say.

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Nov 3, 2023 12:14 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Saw a stat where they were the only team in NFL history to not outgain their opponent in yardage and have that record. Tomlin's a helluva coach regardless of what their fans say.

He's hella good at being mediocre.

Parity is the operating word in the league.  The Steelers have been fortunate to be +9 in turnovers which has helped them score and also hang around.

The way they play, and given risk aversion of the average coach, they can hang around in most games and have a 50/50 shot at winning.  

That's pretty much been their formula for years.  Until they get in the playoffs and get thumped.

Tomlin has won 3 playoff games the past 12 years.  That's not good by any measure.  But if "the standard" is just a non-losing season, then Tomlin is definitely your guy.

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Nov 3, 2023 12:18 PM

They also are 5-0 in 1 score games. 

Might be something to regression on everything they are doing and assume loses are about to pile up. Trying to decide if I want to pursue that thought process and bet it haha.

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Fri, Nov 3, 2023 1:41 PM

Some of it also may have to do with a schedule that's been loaded with average to sub-par teams so far. I'd say San Francisco (loss), Baltimore (win) and Jacksonville (loss) have been their only games in the first eight where they played a team that's noticeably above average (I mean, SF looks pretty blah now, but did start out pretty awesomely).

Going 1-2 against the tough opposition and 4-1 against the okay to bad teams puts them in the category where, despite all the stats going against them, they've at least gotten respectable results, if only because of defensive skill and how their offense magically transforms into something that looks competent in the fourth quarter more often than not. With the caveat being that "respectable" doesn't necessarily get you into the playoffs (as last year's "respectable" 9-8 showed) and it damn sure won't get you far if you make it there. And that won't change until they get A LOT better in the red zone. Seems last night, like so many games, they were able to move the ball, but hit a brick wall when they got into the red zone way too many times. Convert those opportunities and this isn't a down-to-the-last-minute nail-biter.

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 117 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Nov 3, 2023 2:21 PM

Tomlin's approach is to try and hang around and win it in Q4.  He's said that almost verbatim, probably a few times.

So in an offensive league, scoring points and jumping out to a lead is somewhere around priority #5 for Tomlin.  That will put you in the hunt for 9-10 wins, but does little to prepare the team for playoff opponents.  And that's what the people really paying attention have come to accept until PIT gets a new HC.

Also, for being such a "good coach", Tomlin has NEVER had a coach he developed hired by another team.  He has NO coaching tree - no one hiring his people because they like what PIT does and want to copy it.  Me thinks most of the league realizes those two SBs are more attributable to Cowher's coaches and players than Tomlin.

Media loves the guy, though, which is where most of the hype comes from.  What he's put on tape tells a different story.

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 250 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Nov 5, 2023 4:23 PM

CJ Stroud is good. 

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 250 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Nov 5, 2023 5:00 PM

Daniel Jones is not good.

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 168 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Nov 5, 2023 11:24 PM

Bengals are full go….if you can’t pressure Joe, you aren’t going to win. The Bills aren’t as good.

friendfromlowry Senior Member
7,778 posts 87 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Nov 5, 2023 11:50 PM

All four AFC North teams currently holding playoff spots. Going to be an interesting couple months. I hate all of you……

Ironman92 Administrator
56,729 posts 168 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Nov 5, 2023 11:56 PM

Take Bengals offense and Browns defense and you win the Super Bowl


The Ravens aren’t SB Champ contenders but they could be a problem for Browns/Bengals.

Bengals trending greatly though

BR1986FB Senior Member
27,923 posts 126 reps Joined Feb 2010
Mon, Nov 6, 2023 8:23 AM

Been saying this for a while now....obviously the Bengals are good but the Bills are soft as Charmin. Finesse team all the way.

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 250 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Nov 6, 2023 8:40 AM

Jets winning the AFCE with Zach Wilson this year would be hilarious. If they beat the Chargers tonight, I'll believe.

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 250 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Nov 6, 2023 8:40 AM

Bengals are a buzzsaw and I would want nothing to do with them in the playoffs.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Nov 6, 2023 9:06 AM
posted by justincredible

Bengals are a buzzsaw and I would want nothing to do with them in the playoffs.

Still think the Chiefs defense would slow them down but KC's offense is not impressive.

Also think it's very possible that Baltimore reps the AFC in the SB.

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