Your Political Bent

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 20 reps Joined Oct 2010
Wed, Mar 4, 2020 6:09 PM

There's a famous quote that is sometimes attributed to Churchill, though I'm not sure he's the real author. It is "if you're not a liberal when you're 20, you've no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're 50, you've no brain."

 

So how have your Political views changed over time. Mine have gone from very conservative to middle left. 


justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 178 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Mar 4, 2020 6:54 PM

I grew up conservative, voted for GW in 2004 and McCain in 2008 but I really didn't pay attention or put much thought into politics. It was shortly after that I found Ron Paul and went down the rabbit hole to libertarianism.

I currently consider myself a philosophical anarchist, but will vote for libertarians and against all levies that increase taxes. If there isn't a candidate worth voting for, or a levy worth voting against, I don't vote.

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
8,068 posts 106 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Mar 4, 2020 6:54 PM

I've gone from left of center to right, to just short of anarchist. I loathe government.

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 178 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Mar 4, 2020 6:55 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

I've gone from left of center to right, to just short of anarchist. I loathe government.


Verbal Kint Senior Member
1,062 posts 14 reps Joined Jul 2017
Wed, Mar 4, 2020 7:01 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

There's a famous quote that is sometimes attributed to Churchill, though I'm not sure he's the real author. It is "if you're not a liberal when you're 20, you've no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're 50, you've no brain."

 

So how have your Political views changed over time. Mine have gone from very conservative to middle left. 

*John Adams

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 87 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Mar 4, 2020 7:25 PM

I don't think my views have changed.  15-20 years ago I realized that my views actually aligned with Libertarian, except I'm very moderate in that I believe some regulation and govt is necessary.

I have evolved to be much more jaded.  "Journalism" is circling the toilet, and the DC politicos are all about themselves.

 

And FFS, how many people are just trying to vote for the winner?  Not that they're even capable of actually making a good choice if they tried.

Spock Senior Member
5,271 posts 9 reps Joined Jul 2013
Wed, Mar 4, 2020 7:31 PM

When I was younger I didnt understand government enough to know how to vote.  I voted for Clinton once.  When I got out of college I started to understand that my social beliefs weren't as important as financial feelings about government.  

 

I could care less what you think about abortion, gay rights, civil rights.....etc. 

Just leave my $ alone and dont intrude into my home.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
9,465 posts 77 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Mar 4, 2020 7:58 PM

I was always rightish, went super right end of high school and in college, as a parent now I’m still right but understand the nuances of both, especially the social issues. My career was accounting and now finance, and I’ve hated the government as a whole pretty much the whole time. Give me the most of my money and get outta my way and I’m cool. 

BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 84 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Mar 4, 2020 8:46 PM
posted by Spock

 

 

I could care less what you think about abortion, gay rights, civil rights.....etc. 

 

And just how much could you care less?

BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 84 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Mar 4, 2020 9:12 PM

I cast my very first vote for McGovern in 1972 when I was 19. (to my parents chagrin)
 

A few years later, I switched to the Republicans for the next 40 years. 

During my teaching career, there were a handful of my buddies who were Republicans and we were always complaining about our Union’s Democrat leadership. 
 

In 2012, I became disillusioned with the GOP, declared myself an independent, and actually voted for Obama. I felt that he brought dignity to the office. And I liked that.

In 2016, I voted for Clinton on a clothespin vote. 

Trump brings little dignity to the office. Biden will bring a little more.  So I will get my clothespin ready.  
 

 

kizer permanente Senior Member
1,309 posts 12 reps Joined Aug 2017
Wed, Mar 4, 2020 9:46 PM

I lean left. Never really cared a ton either way. But the things I feel strongly about are mostly social and definitely left. I also feel strongly that healthcare shouldn’t be for profit which I’m pretty sure in the only one on here who does lol. 

wkfan Senior Member
1,850 posts 13 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Mar 5, 2020 7:57 AM

Been fiscally conservative all my life. Believe that the smaller the government, the better.

 

Socially , much more moderate as I get older.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 20 reps Joined Oct 2010
Thu, Mar 5, 2020 8:04 AM
posted by Verbal Kint

*John Adams

Really?  I never knew it's true orgin. I've heard it attributed to Churchill and others, but knew those weren't true. I would never have guessed John Adams. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
27,923 posts 112 reps Joined Feb 2010
Thu, Mar 5, 2020 9:01 AM

Was more liberal when I was younger and I'd say I probably lean toward the middle/conservative now. All I ask from my POTUS is 1) don't tax the shit out of me and 2) keep our country safe (this includes no "open borders"). Don't care about abortion, religion (unless it's super lib's trying to say people SHOULDN'T be religious and pushing Muslim faith down our throats...I'm not religious, BTW). legalized marijuana, gay/lesbian rights (love each other all you want), etc. Do care about freeloaders coming into this country and sucking off the teet of people who bust their asses, day in and day out.

jmog Senior Member
7,737 posts 32 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Mar 5, 2020 9:31 AM
posted by justincredible

I grew up conservative, voted for GW in 2004 and McCain in 2008 but I really didn't pay attention or put much thought into politics. It was shortly after that I found Ron Paul and went down the rabbit hole to libertarianism.

I currently consider myself a philosophical anarchist, but will vote for libertarians and against all levies that increase taxes. If there isn't a candidate worth voting for, or a levy worth voting against, I don't vote.

I had a similar path. Conservative to libertarian...I am not quite to anarchist as some form of limited government is needed.

 

However, is it impossible to argue that libertarianism ISN'T the closest to what the original Constitution called for (federal government wise). 

thavoice Senior Member
15,437 posts 41 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Mar 5, 2020 9:32 AM

Always conservative and care less and less each year.

 

Other than when I voted for Perot, wanted to see a businessman run the country...

jmog Senior Member
7,737 posts 32 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Mar 5, 2020 9:32 AM
posted by BRF

And just how much could you care less?

Hey, he only has to teach dodgeball, not grammar. Leave him alone :).

Verbal Kint Senior Member
1,062 posts 14 reps Joined Jul 2017
Thu, Mar 5, 2020 11:15 AM
posted by justincredible

I currently consider myself a philosophical anarchist, but will vote for libertarians and against all levies that increase taxes. If there isn't a candidate worth voting for, or a levy worth voting against, I don't vote.

I thought that I was decently libertarian, but I will vote for levies on: local fire/police, rec dept, MDRR facilities, and road repair.

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 178 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Mar 5, 2020 11:17 AM
posted by Verbal Kint

I thought that I was decently libertarian, but I will vote for levies on: local fire/police, rec dept, MDRR facilities, and road repair.

If it doesn't raise taxes overall, I won't vote for or against it. If it raises them, I vote against. You got enough of my money, budget better.

8,788 posts 21 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Mar 5, 2020 1:41 PM

I've stayed pretty down the middle most of my life. On social issues, I am pretty liberal. Foreign policy I am a moderate hawk.

Domestic policy, I have drifted to the right. I'm not a small government conservative, but understand we cannot spend our way out of problems. 

It's all relative really. On here I am a liberal, but to me friend group, I am the conservative guy. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 303 reps Joined Apr 2010
Thu, Mar 5, 2020 1:59 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I've stayed pretty down the middle most of my life. On social issues, I am pretty liberal. Foreign policy I am a moderate hawk.

Domestic policy, I have drifted to the right. I'm not a small government conservative, but understand we cannot spend our way out of problems. 

It's all relative really. On here I am a liberal, but to me friend group, I am the conservative guy. 

That's because you are a liberal...  This site is much closer to having your politcal bent figured out vs DC/DMV. The DMV just has a very distorted view on the political spectrum and it keeps getting worse.  

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