Uranium One / Clinton Foundation / obama DoJ corruption

If you're Robby Mook, you avoid Fort Marcy Park at all costs. 

If he shows up dead,  you know the whole body count is correct.  It’s got to be above 50 now

If he shows up dead,  you know the whole body count is correct.  It’s got to be above 50 now

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/fbi-opened-alfa-bank-inquiry-based-on-referral-from-doj-but-it-came-from-sussmann

Incredible.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/barr-says-durham-uncovered-seditious-activity/ar-AAXTtlL?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d5fa3e33353f4a89bb5475f8824364ab

The real sedition

posted by QuakerOats

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/barr-says-durham-uncovered-seditious-activity/ar-AAXTtlL?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d5fa3e33353f4a89bb5475f8824364ab

The real sedition

Well Sussman was acquitted.....so that means what next? 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Well Sussman was acquitted.....so that means what next? 

Nothing.  These people go unchecked in society.  

posted by Fletch

Nothing.  These people go unchecked in society.  

What's that say about the jury? 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Well Sussman was acquitted.....so that means what next? 

That for seemingly the 5 millionth time, Quaker gets all hot about how IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN and then nothing happens. Dude's essentially political premature ejaculation.

It sounds like a case of jury nullification.  I didn't follow it closely, but I think the defense was basically "it's the FBI, this isn't a lie that's material or impactful to them".  Another way of saying would it really have mattered if he told them it came from oppo research?  And if you believe it did, then that's a sad commentary on the FBI.

And while it is and should be a crime, that perspective has merit.  I'd point out it's not that different than with some of Trump's financial disclosures, which is "fraud" is difficult to prove against sophisticated players that can or should do their own due diligence.

I remember hearing something about that text message being withheld.  Shenanigans.

"Mr. Sussmann had told FBI general counsel James Baker that he represented no client. In truth he represented the Clinton campaign, as billing records showed. But Mr. Durham had charged Mr. Sussmann with lying to Mr. Baker in person, not in the text message, which the special counsel only obtained after he had filed the original indictment."

"The jury may also have been persuaded by the defense claim that the FBI already had ample reason to know that Mr. Sussmann was working for the Clinton campaign."

The judge ruled that the text message could not be the 'false statement'; so the jury was ordered to focus only on the verbal statement made the next day in the meeting.  So the full-proof written evidence clearly demonstrating the lie was thrown out, which is beyond belief, except that the judge is a hillary supporter as was the majority of the jury (self-admittedly).  Sussman was guilty of the charge, without question.  At least we have the confirming testimony of hillary's own campaign manager saying she in fact green-lighted the entire Russia hoax.   She's as rotten as they come. 

posted by QuakerOats

The judge ruled that the text message could not be the 'false statement'; so the jury was ordered to focus only on the verbal statement made the next day in the meeting.  So the full-proof written evidence clearly demonstrating the lie was thrown out, which is beyond belief, except that the judge is a hillary supporter as was the majority of the jury (self-admittedly).  Sussman was guilty of the charge, without question.  At least we have the confirming testimony of hillary's own campaign manager saying she in fact green-lighted the entire Russia hoax.   She's as rotten as they come. 

Oh the judge is in on it. Got it.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Oh the judge is in on it. Got it.

Don't worry man, I'm sure that any year now, one of Quaker's "WE DONE GOTS 'EM!!! SMOKING GUN!!!! HEADS WILL ROLL!!!!!" predictions will actually lead to something other than him bitterly sobbing in a corner about conspiracies and the fix being in and everybody being crooked except for the ones he likes. I mean, what could be the odds that he's just a crazy-ass right-wing extremist who refuses to believe, accept, etc. anything that doesn't support his personal worldview? That's unpossible!!!

posted by Heretic

Don't worry man, I'm sure that any year now, one of Quaker's "WE DONE GOTS 'EM!!! SMOKING GUN!!!! HEADS WILL ROLL!!!!!" predictions will actually lead to something other than him bitterly sobbing in a corner about conspiracies and the fix being in and everybody being crooked except for the ones he likes. I mean, what could be the odds that he's just a crazy-ass right-wing extremist who refuses to believe, accept, etc. anything that doesn't support his personal worldview? That's unpossible!!!

My brother and dad have basically the same political stance as QO.  You can't convince them of anything outside of Fox/Breitbart talking points.  They also greatly over estimate the immediacy of any president's actions on day to day results. (i.e. a 10 year planned factory opens in 2017 and Trump is somewhow the cause).  

With gas prices, I would say that Biden has certainly not helped matters by creating an environment where fears of environmental regulations hurt development.  But a lot of price pressure is driven by the fact that production was cut by 1/3 during Covid, many small drillers were driven from the market, and oil firms have little incentive to increase production currently.  Banning new permits on federal lands does not change that the industry is sitting on about a decade of undrilled, yet permitted wells.  

Again, Biden is doing nothing to help and is actually making matters worse.  But supply and demand forces (including a world benchmark being pushed by Russian supplies being taken out of the market are more powerful than anything a president can do.  Besides, oil prices were already rising rapidly during Trumps final months in office.  Goes to show...

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Oh the judge is in on it. Got it.

I'm just pointing out the bias of the judge and jury (self-admitted); I know that may be inconvenient for you and a few others.

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/stench-from-the-sussmann-verdict/

https://thenationaldesk.com/news/fact-check-team/fact-check-team-the-trial-of-michael-sussmann-special-counsel-john-durham-probe-2016-election-trump-russia-ties-collusion-hillary-clinton

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/05/26/the_three-ring_circus_of_todays_political_scandals__147658.html

Par for the course. 

posted by QuakerOats

I'm just pointing out the bias of the judge and jury (self-admitted); I know that may be inconvenient for you and a few others.

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/stench-from-the-sussmann-verdict/

https://thenationaldesk.com/news/fact-check-team/fact-check-team-the-trial-of-michael-sussmann-special-counsel-john-durham-probe-2016-election-trump-russia-ties-collusion-hillary-clinton

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/05/26/the_three-ring_circus_of_todays_political_scandals__147658.html

Par for the course. 

You are in it man. Kudos to you. 

Well, it makes Watergate look like a playground game; so yeah, some people care. 

posted by QuakerOats

Well, it makes Watergate look like a playground game; so yeah, some people care. 

Don't worry, little guy; I'm sure it won't be long before you find your next "greatest scandal ever" where "heads will roll"! I mean, since you do find one or two of them every few weeks or so.

posted by Heretic

Don't worry, little guy; I'm sure it won't be long before you find your next "greatest scandal ever" where "heads will roll"! I mean, since you do find one or two of them every few weeks or so.

The single greatest affront to The People in the history of the Republic!  Let the bombs reign down!!!