Uranium One / Clinton Foundation / obama DoJ corruption

posted by like_that

It seems like a lot of people on the right (including the representatives who read it) are really gidy about the memo.  What do you all think?  Will it be a bombshell or a nothing burger?  Will it even be released?

Seems like whether it be Clinton stuff or Trump stuff, someone's giddy about something every day. When I see actual results, I'll believe it -- until then, QQ is this site's version of Seth Abramson and his daily 395406578-tweet threads about how BAD SHIT IS COMING DOWN FOR TRUMP!!!1!!

posted by Heretic

Seems like whether it be Clinton stuff or Trump stuff, someone's giddy about something every day. When I see actual results, I'll believe it 

We won't get there in 2018, but maybe by 2020 after 8 years of Obama and 4 years of Trump....all the doomsdayers and wingnuts might finally realize Congress is the problem and STOP RE-ELECTING those asshats.

Oprah, Kid Rock, Hulk Hogan, George Clooney, Mark Cuban....looks like we are entering the era of the celebrity politician.  And it's really not very far from the Clinton/Obama era of the politician becoming a celebrity.

posted by like_that

It seems like a lot of people on the right (including the representatives who read it) are really gidy about the memo.  What do you all think?  Will it be a bombshell or a nothing burger?  Will it even be released?

I don't know.  It's been so long ago I've forgotten exactly who and what, but the one guy had to recuse himself from the committee after seeing some bombshell intel from the White House, which I vaguely recall was something about FISA and unmasking.  But then that seemed to fade away as a big nothingburger (though this is possibly IT, or related to it).

If it's what I think it is, or what it sounds like it could be....Republicans are giddy because this is going to cook Rosenstein and the Mueller investigation.  It's REALLY critical to the Dems that the investigation drag on at least thru the 2018 elections.

posted by gut

I don't know.  It's been so long ago I've forgotten exactly who and what, but the one guy had to recuse himself from the committee after seeing some bombshell intel from the White House, which I vaguely recall was something about FISA and unmasking.  But then that seemed to fade away as a big nothingburger (though this is possibly IT, or related to it).

If it's what I think it is, or what it sounds like it could be....Republicans are giddy because this is going to cook Rosenstein and the Mueller investigation.  It's REALLY critical to the Dems that the investigation drag on at least thru the 2018 elections.

I think passing a FISA extension is very telling imo.  Most likely a nothing burger.

Btw, I would take Mark Cuban from the list of celebs you listed. 

posted by like_that

Btw, I would take Mark Cuban from the list of celebs you listed. 

I'd take Cuban, too.  Not sure what his politics are....I think if someone says they would "probably" run as a Repub that means they are either a libertarian or independent.  "Social centrist and fiscal conservative" sounds closer to libertarian than anything, but Cuban probably knows running Libertarian is a lost cause.

As long as the left stream media fails to cover the real issues in our government.....the people are slaves to DC

posted by like_that

I think passing a FISA extension is very telling imo.  Most likely a nothing burger.

We'll see.  FISA is a rubber stamp (not supposed to be).  Unmasking is supposed to be a very high bar (it's not).  And every day that goes by sounds more and more like the slanderous Dossier was critical to the FISA warrants - which is how you go from people just being fired to people going to jail (as a few Repubs are crying).  If this leads to Rosenstein's termination, invalidates the FISA warrants and merely suggests the collusion investigation may have been politically motivated....then I think Mueller is done.

While the media has overplayed and sensationalized the Mueller investigation, for the most part Dems HAVE NOT.  I don't think the Repubs would overplay their hand here, but who knows.  Smart money goes down the middle - bad for Obama, bad for Democrats, no one goes to jail and Mueller continues.

Rosenstein has been rumored on the hot seat for months.  I think he's done.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/22/republicans-hope-to-release-jaw-dropping-memo-on-surveillance-abuses.html

Hopefully within a month or so, the memo will be released. 

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/lost-fbi-texts-could-form-basis-for-motion-to-dismiss-in-trump-team-fight-against-russia-probe/

Then there is this ...

posted by QuakerOats

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/lost-fbi-texts-could-form-basis-for-motion-to-dismiss-in-trump-team-fight-against-russia-probe/

Then there is this ...

Some Dems are calling that memo baseless lies completely lacking in evidence.  Which, umm, is a pretty fantastic claim flirting with slander.  We'll see, I think it will be disappointing but hardly a nothingburger.

The losts texts are pretty damning, albeit very circumstantial (read the FBI blamed it on a server upgrade).  But every week this looks more and more like a manufactured witchhunt, and a cover-up.

Bleachbit must be real good

posted by gut

Some Dems are calling that memo baseless lies completely lacking in evidence.  Which, umm, is a pretty fantastic claim flirting with slander.  We'll see, I think it will be disappointing but hardly a nothingburger.

Here is your spin.  You got to love throwing in the Russian bots pushing this.

CNN is reporting that House repulican leaders are pushing for as much of the underlying evidence to be revealed as possible to back up the memo.  This Schiff guy is a liar.  I am sure this Schiff guy would be right on board with releasing some of the underlying evidence that will prove the memo to be a partisan hack job he claims it to be.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics/gop-classified-intelligence-fisa-memo/index.html

posted by like_that

I think passing a FISA extension is very telling imo.  Most likely a nothing burger.

I would like to see congressmen called on the carpet on this.  Were they privy to the allegations in this memo prior to voting.  If not would they reconsider their vote.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/page-strzok-referenced-fbi-secret-society-met-day-election/

and more ....

Secret Society LOL......

Way to go guys, we are now in full blown conspiracy theory mode. I'm surprised it did take this long. 

Is this the same society that has Obama's real birth certificate? Are they tied to the New World Order? 

We want the facts; not a cover up.

posted by QuakerOats

We want the facts; not a cover up.

I don't believe you will accept any facts that do not suit your own perceived bias. 

But, sure, let's get all the "facts" out. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

I don't believe you will accept any facts that do not suit your own perceived bias. 

But, sure, let's get all the "facts" out. 

we surely arent going to get the facts from the media or any lifelong politician.  Thats why trump is dangerous.  He isnt in the clique

posted by ptown_trojans_1

I don't believe you will accept any facts that do not suit your own perceived bias. 

But, sure, let's get all the "facts" out. 

John Ratcliffe✔@RepRatcliffe

The thousands of texts @TGowdySC and I reviewed today revealed manifest bias among top FBI officials against @realDonaldTrump. The texts between Strzok and Page referenced a "secret society."

7:34 PM - Jan 22, 2018

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posted by ptown_trojans_1

But, sure, let's get all the "facts" out. 

Sometimes "technical glitches" can prevent all the "facts" from ever coming out.