Uranium One / Clinton Foundation / obama DoJ corruption

  • Wed, Dec 13, 2017 4:13 PM
    posted by QuakerOats

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/13/ex-mueller-aides-texts-revealed-read-them-here.html

    wow.  Proves motive for sure ..................easy to see how he would assemble such a dossier for FISA.  Congress was pretty aghast in today's hearing. 

    I only caught a few minutes, but it was pure gold.

    Both parties want to move on from the Russia investigation - Repubs want a Special Prosecutor for the dossier, and Dems now want an investigation into Trump's abuse of women.

    Eventually, Dems will probably get around to going after Trump for taxes.

    But the way Congress operates now, there's really nothing for the minority party to do except hold committees investigating stuff.

    Wed, Dec 13, 2017 4:24 PM

    Lol on the text " Went to local Wal-Mart... I could smell the trump support."

    Wed, Dec 13, 2017 6:40 PM
    posted by Spock

    Lol on the text " Went to local Wal-Mart... I could smell the trump support."

    strong

    Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:43 AM

    The FBI’s Trump ‘Insurance’

    More troubling evidence of election meddling at the bureau.

     

    By  The Wall Street Journal The Editorial Board

    Dec. 13, 2017 7:22 p.m. ET

    Democrats and the media are accusing anyone who criticizes special counsel Robert Mueller as Trumpian conspirators trying to undermine his probe. But who needs critics when Mr. Mueller’s team is doing so much to undermine its own credibility?

     

    Wednesday’s revelations—they’re coming almost daily—include the Justice Department’s release of 2016 text messages to and from Peter Strzok, the FBI counterintelligence agent whom Mr. Mueller demoted this summer. The texts, which he exchanged with senior FBI lawyer Lisa Page, contain expletive-laced tirades against Mr. Trump. Such Trump hatred is no surprise and not by itself disqualifying. More troubling are texts that suggest that some FBI officials may have gone beyond antipathy to anti-Trump plotting.

    “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office—that there’s no way [Trump] gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk,” Mr. Strzok wrote Ms. Page in an Aug. 15, 2016 text. He added: “It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”

    What “policy” would that be? The “Andy” in question is Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director. FBI officials are allowed to have political opinions, but what kind of action were they discussing that would amount to anti-Trump “insurance”?

    In another exchange that month, Ms. Page forwarded a Trump-related article and wrote: “Maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace.” He thanked her and assured: “Of course I’ll try and approach it that way.” Mr. Strzok, recall, is the man who changed the words “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless” in James Comey’s July 2016 public exoneration of Hillary Clinton’s emails.

    The McCabe meeting came on the heels of the FBI’s launch of its counterintelligence probe into Trump-Russia ties. July is also when former British spook Christopher Steele briefed the FBI on his Clinton-financed dossier of salacious allegations against Mr. Trump. The texts explain why Mr. Mueller would remove Mr. Strzok, though a straight shooter wouldn’t typically resist turning those messages over to Congress for as long as Mr. Mueller did.

    Meanwhile, we’re learning more about the political motives of Mr. Mueller’s lieutenant, Andrew Weissmann. Judicial Watch last week released an email in which Mr. Weissmann expressed his “awe” and praise for Sally Yates, after the then acting AG and Obama holdover refused to implement Mr. Trump’s travel ban.

    This should trouble anyone who cares about the integrity of the Justice Department. Ms. Yates had every right to resign at the time if she felt she couldn’t implement Mr. Trump’s order. But she had no authority as an executive branch official to defy a legitimate presidential order. Mr. Weissmann’s support for her insubordination was a declaration that he is part of the “resistance.” This should be unacceptable in a ranking FBI official, much less someone charged with conducting a fair-minded investigation.

    Public confidence isn’t helped by the continuing Justice and FBI refusal to cooperate with Congress. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who supervises Mr. Mueller, toed the Mueller-FBI line on Wednesday before the House Oversight Committee. He repeated FBI Director Christopher Wray’s preposterous excuse that he can’t answer questions because of an Inspector General probe. And he wouldn’t elaborate on the news that Nellie Ohr, the wife of senior Justice official Bruce Ohr, worked for Fusion GPS, which hired Mr. Steele to gin up his dossier.

    The man who should be most disturbed by all this is Mr. Mueller, who wants his evidence and conclusions to be credible with the public. Evidence is building instead that some officials at the FBI—who have worked for him—may have interfered in an American presidential election. Congress needs to insist on its rights as a co-equal branch of government to discover the truth.

    Appeared in the December 14, 2017, print edition.

     

    Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:52 AM

    I don't really have enough information to have much of an opinion on this, but it's very concerning.

    I'd point out the Aug. 15th text could have been based on a strong belief Trump and/or people close to him were compromised by the Russians.  Although, that would seem to be a rather premature conclusion as the investigation was only a few months old (although investigations had been open on Manafort and Flynn for much longer).  But it's not inconceivable - this is months after Hillary's emails leaked and about a month after the DNC emails leaked.  I believe Obama and Congress had passed sanctions earlier that June.

    So at the time of that text, the Russian interference and hacking was fairly well established.  HOWEVER, it doesn't appear [to-date] they had anything concrete or substantial on collusion to warrant such a statement.  But being a dyed-in-the-wool Hillary supporter (and other anti-Trumpers), it's not hard to imagine these people completely lost objectivity and believed what they wanted to believe.

    Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:57 AM
    posted by QuakerOats

    Evidence is building instead that some officials at the FBI—who have worked for him—may have interfered in an American presidential election. Congress needs to insist on its rights as a co-equal branch of government to discover the truth.

    Also, this is hyperbole.  How did the FBI "interefere" in the presidential election.  If they did at all, it helped Trump with the October surprise on the Hillary/Huma Abedin emails.  But I saw nothing come out that could be construed as the FBI trying to take down candidate Trump.  President-elect and President Trump, however, is another story.

    Thu, Dec 14, 2017 3:59 PM
    posted by gut

    Also, this is hyperbole.  How did the FBI "interefere" in the presidential election.  

    by being involved in the assembly of a false dossier that was used against Trump......

    Tue, Dec 19, 2017 4:54 PM
    posted by QuakerOats

    And yet more Clinton money laundering .....

     

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/19/hillary-clinton-campaign-dnc-accused-corrupt-money-scheme-in-new-fec-complaint.html

     

    They know no bounds.

     

    According to the article, these are accusations being brought by the Committee to Defend the President aka The Stop Hillary Committee.  So whenever a group like this files a complaint, is it best to believe it whole heartedly.  Could there possibly be any political motivation at work?

     

    I am not under the assumption that any presidential campaign is pure like the wind driven snow.  But watching these two camplaigns still spouting accusations at one another and acting astonished with every new one is like kindergarteners on the playground fighting over a Tonka truck.  

     

    Tue, Dec 19, 2017 5:08 PM

    Imagine if only we could weaponize the IRS to go after the Clinton money-laundering --- foundation, DNC, campaign --- just as obama did with conservative groups.  

    Wed, Dec 20, 2017 5:33 AM

    Wasn't sure where to put this, but I figured since this thread talks about some of this I'd put it here. I don't really know if I have anything to say about it at this time, mainly because I don't think there's much I /can/ say.

     https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/senate-intel-committee-investigating-jill-stein-campaign-for-collusion-with-the-russians/2017/12/18/ea7f3f1a-e44b-11e7-833f-155031558ff4_story.html

     

     

    Wed, Dec 20, 2017 6:55 AM
    posted by ptown_trojans_1

    Maybe it is just me, but bigger issues that I would focus on in Congress: 

    • Actual tax reform 
    • Infrastructure projects and how to pay for them 
    • SS and Medicare reform 
    • Reform of Defense spending 
    • Debate on powers of the President to launch military actions post  9/11 
    • Cyber security and laws of warfare regarding cyber crime 
    • Restructing the federal agencies, reduce the federal government to be more efficient 

    Term limits....... Politic should not be a career 

    Wed, Dec 20, 2017 11:10 AM
    posted by CenterBHSFan

    Wasn't sure where to put this, but I figured since this thread talks about some of this I'd put it here. I don't really know if I have anything to say about it at this time, mainly because I don't think there's much I /can/ say.

    It looks to me like the only real thing of consequence Russia accomplished was making it LOOK like there was collusion and shenanigans with multiple parties.  Which I think is kind of how those operations work - you can't actually get it done, but making it look like you did is just as effective.

    Wed, Dec 20, 2017 12:03 PM

    THe Russians were cooking on both burners, HC and DT.  THey were banking on having either winner in their pocket.  

     

    This is what happens when we have feckless leadership from our last admnistration.

    Wed, Dec 20, 2017 12:08 PM
    posted by Spock

    THe Russians were cooking on both burners, HC and DT.  THey were banking on having either winner in their pocket.  

    That was my point....they made it LOOK like there was a connection with both HC and DT, but I don't think there's actually much (if anything) there.

    Wed, Dec 20, 2017 3:20 PM

    EXCLUSIVE: Congressional investigators tell Fox News that Tuesday’s seven-hour interrogation of Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe contained numerous conflicts with the testimony of previous witnesses, prompting the Republican majority staff of the House Intelligence Committee to decide to issue fresh subpoenas next week on Justice Department and FBI personnel.

    While HPSCI staff would not confirm who will be summoned for testimony, all indications point to demoted DOJ official Bruce G. Ohr and FBI General Counsel James A. Baker, who accompanied McCabe, along with other lawyers, to Tuesday’s HPSCI session.

    The issuance of a subpoena against the Justice Department’s top lawyer could provoke a new constitutional clash between the two branches, even worse than the months-long tug of war over documents and witnesses that has already led House Speaker Paul Ryan to accuse DOJ and FBI of “stonewalling” and HPSCI Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., to threaten contempt-of-Congress citations against Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray.

    “It’s hard to know who’s telling us the truth,” said one House investigator after McCabe’s questioning.

     

     

     

    The beat goes on .....

    Sat, Dec 30, 2017 6:06 PM

    when did this place turn into Stormfront? Good lord.

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