The Kavanaugh saga

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Oct 5, 2018 4:03 PM
posted by iclfan2

I truly believe that misinformation to the uneducated/ gullible public has played a large part into where we are.

Very true.  I've often thought that is the real reason for a targeted campaign against Fox and Rush Limbaugh.  There are other conservative outlets, but those two seem to have the vast majority of the share.  And so the left quietly quashes dissent by steering people away from those sources in the first place, but then also discrediting any argument shared or originating from them regardless of merit.

Notice how no one said too much when Obama routinely disparaged Fox News.  Because they agreed, and they were onboard.  Now when Trump does it to CNN he's "threatening our Democracy!!!!!"

Funny thing is, if you really wanted to knock Fox down in terms of influence and counteract them, you'd launch another conservative network to steal share and put out different messaging.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Fri, Oct 5, 2018 4:20 PM

So Collins destroys the Dem narrative in a long ass speech and the media losing it. What would be called sexist/ mansplaining/ etc. if the other way is cheered on by the clowns on the left. They truly don't give a shit how hypocritical they are. 

A lot of people tweeting things like "we must never let them eat in peace again"... I can't wait for one of them to get destroyed. One day they're gonna mess with the wrong person.

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Fri, Oct 5, 2018 4:44 PM
posted by gut

I'm getting disgusted with politics....hard to have a rational, objective conversation with people who have no interest in independent thought.  Many people are 100% convinced of whatever the Dems and their media are selling (goes both ways, but your position is unambiguously absolutely correct here....great example of how blindly partisan people have become).

Perhaps it's a small victory that most are not saying he should be rejected because of a completely unsubstantiated allegation.  That was a dangerous new standard we were flirting with.

That's a pretty low bar, though.  Man.

That video of RBG that I posted the other day was REALLY telling.  25 years ago, during the Clinton years, when she was confirmed, she received 97% of the votes.  So Republicans and Democrats both acknowledged that she was qualified, regardless of her politics.

Look how far we've come.  Based on a potential judge's political leaning, we're either willing to go to extremes to keep someone OFF the bench or we're willing to overlook most anything to get him ON the bench.

"United" States of America is so laughable.  We're so fractured.

 

 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Fri, Oct 5, 2018 4:48 PM

Not sure where to put it, but guilty verdict handed down in the laquon McDonald case. I’m pretty shocked by that lol wonder if it’s just because they didn’t want Chicago to burn to the ground?

geeblock Member
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Fri, Oct 5, 2018 5:08 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Not sure where to put it, but guilty verdict handed down in the laquon McDonald case. I’m pretty shocked by that lol wonder if it’s just because they didn’t want Chicago to burn to the ground?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow27I3yTFKc

 

i hadnt  seen the dash cam until today, Seems like a fair verdict imo. Several cops realized you didn’t have to shoot and one executed him.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Fri, Oct 5, 2018 9:42 PM

The media meltdown currently is something to behold. Tomorrow might break twitter. 

As for the Chicago thing, I read about it a few months ago and then today when they were trying to protect all the businesses, but 16 shots seems excessive when no one else shot. Hard to find many neutral articles on it.

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 8:22 AM

Random thought #1: When you break it down to its actual core, a huge percentage of this fight is over abortion. Am I a horrible person if I believe there are many other equally or (gasp) more important issues?

Random thought #2: Can you claim to be a proponent of democracy if your reaction to being on the losing side involves harassment and violence?

 

 

 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 9:17 AM
posted by queencitybuckeye

Random thought #1: When you break it down to its actual core, a huge percentage of this fight is over abortion. Am I a horrible person if I believe there are many other equally or (gasp) more important issues?

Random thought #2: Can you claim to be a proponent of democracy if your reaction to being on the losing side involves harassment and violence?

1) I have no idea why the libs live and die by abortion. It will never be “illegal”. Ultimate identity politics topic. Not a woman, you have no say.

2) They aren’t proponents of democracy. Remember when the press was all over the tea party “protests”? These whiny bitch protests now put those to shame.

geeblock Member
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 10:07 AM
posted by iclfan2

1) I have no idea why the libs live and die by abortion. It will never be “illegal”. Ultimate identity politics topic. Not a woman, you have no say.

2) They aren’t proponents of democracy. Remember when the press was all over the tea party “protests”? These whiny bitch protests now put those to shame.

Both parties are equally deplorable imo. The gop spent 8 years making sure nothing could get done by Obama and shutting down the govt. Obama couldn’t even get to the nomination process. Our govt sadly is broken 

Spock Senior Member
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 10:11 AM
posted by geeblock

Both parties are equally deplorable imo. The gop spent 8 years making sure nothing could get done by Obama and shutting down the govt. Obama couldn’t even get to the nomination process. Our govt sadly is broken 

While I agree DC sucks....Obama was outside the comfort zone with most.  He was surely a radical idealog

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 1:13 PM

When is the actual vote? Calling people who confirm Kav “pro-rape” is how you get Trump. 

Btw the FBI did interview a bunch of people around the Ramirez allegation (which was a nothing burger anyway) and found 0 evidence. A popular dem talking point is that they didn’t look into it at all. 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 2:03 PM

I'm seeing tweets such as the one below all over the place today. I've left out the name:

 21h21 hours ago

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Kavanaugh's all but certain confirmation as a Supreme Court Justice is only further proof of the corruption that permeates the United States' government. Covering Donald Trump's ass has become a higher priority to our Senators than liberty and justice.

Which makes me think that at least part of this resistance is because it's a Trump nomination and not Kavanaugh's credentials as a judge or knowledge of the Constitution. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 3:00 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Which makes me think that at least part of this resistance is because it's a Trump nomination and not Kavanaugh's credentials as a judge or knowledge of the Constitution. 

At least? C’mon, 95% don’t care about his actual credentials. 

Just reported that Ford does not plan on perusing anything more against Kavanaugh legally. Shocker

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 4:10 PM

Officially confirmed. RIP to the Republic. Or something.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 4:13 PM

I think Lindsey Graham is a turd, but this dub over some crazy lady yelling at him yesterday is pretty great. He could not have cared any less, the tie straighten really brought the whole thing together.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1048656700704772096

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 4:18 PM
posted by justincredible

I think Lindsey Graham is a turd, but this dub over some crazy lady yelling at him yesterday is pretty great. He could not have cared any less, the tie straighten really brought the whole thing together.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1048656700704772096

Some guy did a dub of like 50 songs. It’s hilarious. I never liked Graham here, but after the last month I’ll vote for him every time.

majorspark Senior Member
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 4:42 PM

The screaming banshees during roll call.  They sounded completely deranged.  What sane person thinks this wins any reasonable person over  I hope they get the mental help they desperately need..

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 4:55 PM
posted by iclfan2

Some guy did a dub of like 50 songs. It’s hilarious. I never liked Graham here, but after the last month I’ll vote for him every time.

I'd still never vote for him, but I did enjoy that interaction.

Spock Senior Member
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Sat, Oct 6, 2018 5:16 PM

This battle will be the hill the dems die on.  Their supporters, tactics and the media all look really bad.  The DEM playbook is empty.  Their bench of candidates on 2020 all got owned.  Booker, Harris and Avennati....

Seriously.  

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