SCOTUS Decisions

I hope Trump delivers and appoints a Gorsuch clone. 

posted by like_that

I hope Trump delivers and appoints a Gorsuch clone. 

hah! You really do want to watch the world burn, eh?

posted by ptown_trojans_1

 

I don't know if it is right or not, but shit....things are going to get really nasty now...

You don't? Of course it isn't, and no, it wasn't right when the other side did it.

I think Trump plays politics with this seat.  Puts up a extremely moderate judge and gets reelected by a landslide in a few years

posted by Spock

I think Trump plays politics with this seat.  Puts up a extremely moderate judge and gets reelected by a landslide in a few years

I don't know if his list has a moderate, but that's where the nomination is going to come from.  It would be interesting, given the likelihood of keeping the Senate, if Repubs decided to table it.  McConnell already said they intend to confirm in the fall.

Personally, I'm not sure Trump would care if he lost the House and/or Senate.  He'd just stand up there and blame Congress for not doing anything, and use it as an excuse for more Executive actions (you know, just like the last guy).

The other interesting question is, even if the Dems take the House and/or Senate, is this new Bernie wave going to be like the Tea Party and make it very difficult to pass legislation unilaterally without Republican support?

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah, one could make the case that, like the Rs did, that the voters should determine who gets to pick the next justice and that the elections in November could do that. Say, it's a check on Trump to make sure he does not turn the Court too radical. It's the same argument the Rs made. I'm not sure its right, but I could easily see the argument being made. 

Also, it depends on who Trump picks. If he goes with a moderate, it takes the steam out of the process. If he goes full Trump and goes full blown conservative that wants to overturn Roe v. Wade and the Gay Marriage stuff, look out....

posted by CenterBHSFan

Yeahhhhh I definitely agree with you on this. Twitter will win the Academy Awards with all the drama we will see in the next few days!

Days...try months. 
 

 

You didn't really answer gut's question.  Serious question, how can they legitimately stop it?  What is stopping McConnell from using the nuclear option if he has to?

If there is something that will generate republican voter turnout, it will be for the opportunity to appoint a conservative justice.  Especially after seeing how the SCOTUS ruled the last two months. That's a risky battle to pick, especially when they are defending 26 seats to 9.  They are better off quadrupling down on identity politics. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah, one could make the case that, like the Rs did, that the voters should determine who gets to pick the next justice and that the elections in November could do that. Say, it's a check on Trump to make sure he does not turn the Court too radical. It's the same argument the Rs made. I'm not sure its right, but I could easily see the argument being made. 

That would be a terrible argument. Trump got elected so that the court wouldn't turn into Looney Tunes, and thank goodness he won now.  They'll use the Nuclear option, the one that Harry Reid invoked.

I don't know exactly what the Ds could do short of gum up the hearings and fillibuster. 

It all depends on who Trump nominates. If that person wants to overturn Roe v,. Wade, that could turnout the D base and lead to a very, very hostile hearing. 

The hostile strategy might work for the Ds to turn out people in the midterms. Also, could back fire. We'll see. 

Again, things just got uglier over the next few months. If you like pure shitstorm politics and overreactions, sit backand get your popcorn ready. 

Liberals are seemingly not saying much on Twitter. Progressives, however, are collectively filling their pants.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Liberals are seemingly not saying much on Twitter. Progressives, however, are collectively filling their pants.

Oh, I've already seen the abortion and gay marriage will be outlawed in 18 months tweets...

This will only just fire up the bases...

posted by ptown_trojans_1

I don't know exactly what the Ds could do short of gum up the hearings and fillibuster. 

It all depends on who Trump nominates. If that person wants to overturn Roe v,. Wade, that could turnout the D base and lead to a very, very hostile hearing. 

The hostile strategy might work for the Ds to turn out people in the midterms. Also, could back fire. We'll see. 

Again, things just got uglier over the next few months. If you like pure shitstorm politics and overreactions, sit backand get your popcorn ready. 

We agree for the first time ever.........shitstorm it is and it will be fun to watch!!!!  There is only one for sure here....everyone will be showing their true colors on this one!!!!  I hope Trump does something to make both sides just explode.  Outside the Beltway that would just make us minions love him more

posted by ptown_trojans_1

I don't know exactly what the Ds could do short of gum up the hearings and fillibuster. 

It all depends on who Trump nominates. If that person wants to overturn Roe v,. Wade, that could turnout the D base and lead to a very, very hostile hearing. 

The hostile strategy might work for the Ds to turn out people in the midterms. Also, could back fire. We'll see. 

Again, things just got uglier over the next few months. If you like pure shitstorm politics and overreactions, sit backand get your popcorn ready. 

So, in other words nothing new and more of the #RESIST bullshit we see.  I don't know where you have been, but I don't think we have gone 3 weeks since Trump was elected without people acting like the end of democracy is here.  Pretty sure the people who are going to overreact are the same people who have overreacted to everything so far.  

It wasn't too long ago, but I recall Gorsuch stated Roe/Wade is the law of the land and he accepts it.  If Trump appoints another justice who feels that way, crying about Roe/Wade being overturned will just be bullshit.  I guess I am not buying the "more turnout" for dems argument when it comes to the SCOTUS.  I think more likely more conservatives come to play with a justice that will have an effect on them for most of their lives.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Oh, I've already seen the abortion and gay marriage will be outlawed in 18 months tweets...

This will only just fire up the bases...

It won't happen.  Trump (and the GOP) is dumb, but not that dumb.  

posted by like_that

It won't happen.  Trump (and the GOP) is dumb, but not that dumb.  

Trump: "Hold my beer... "

posted by ptown_trojans_1

.... gay marriage will be outlawed in 18 months tweets...

To be fair, that's an example of legislating from the bench.

I couldn't care less about whether or not a gay couple gets to sign a piece of paper together.  But there are many legal rights afforded to spouses they probably should be entitled to.  However, that's for Congress to make federal law, not the SCOTUS.

For those of you who don't get on Twitter much, if ever, here's what is commonly being said right now:

https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/1012033875466506253

posted by Spock

.......shitstorm it is and it will be fun to watch!!!! 

If Trump plays his cards right, his nomination might give Ginsburg a heart attack.

Seriously, could any shitstorm top Trump getting a chance to replace Ginsburg?

posted by CenterBHSFan

For those of you who don't get on Twitter much, if ever, here's what is commonly being said right now:

https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/1012033875466506253

posted by iclfan2

That would be a terrible argument. Trump got elected so that the court wouldn't turn into Looney Tunes, and thank goodness he won now.  They'll use the Nuclear option, the one that Harry Reid invoked.

Not necessary; a simple senate majority is required for confirmation. Gorsuch was 54-45.

posted by CenterBHSFan

For those of you who don't get on Twitter much, if ever, here's what is commonly being said right now:

https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/1012033875466506253

The irony of having FDR as his cover photo LOL.