Progressives, part 3...

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 115 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jun 20, 2019 1:56 PM
posted by justincredible

If the feds removed pot from schedule 1 it would make a big difference.

I don't think it would.  Like I said, the Feds really aren't prosecuting and incarcerating people for marijuana.  States don't prosecute people for breaking federal laws.  So it's actually the state laws that need to change (and they have been - Feds have been looking the other way which is how CA, CO, etc have legalized pot).

Spock Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:02 PM
posted by iclfan2

What do you think you should get?

On a side not, all of the Biden stuff coming out now makes the media look even more complicit in picking sides. They all knew Biden said shit that people now (regressives) would think is questionable. Just saw tweets mad that he said BOY about Jesse Jackson back in the day. Glad to know the media has woken up from it's hibernation from 2008-2016. Clowns

 

Yea CNN is hitting Biden hard.  They are obviously interfering in our elections

geeblock Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:09 PM

I didn’t comment on reparations I could care less. My point is that the argument about “5 generations ago” or “no one alive” is stupid. Jim Crow was just as bad as slavery. There are a million reasons to be against reparations without those two 

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:11 PM
posted by majorspark

 Its a fucking farce and they all know it.  The sad thing is the people that have been duped into participating in this political theatre.

Apparently, merely supporting reparations without actually doing anything about it is enough to convince black people to vote Democrat because the Repubs are racist....

You know, if Dems got "only" 70% of the black vote, that would make the popular vote virtually a dead heat.

geeblock Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:11 PM
posted by Spock

you dont get it both ways.....you cant end slavery and then say that "most" life's got worse.

When slavery ended the slaves had no money and nowhere to go so yes for a while it was worse although I’m sure they were glad to not get raped and beaten 

geeblock Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:12 PM
posted by gut

Apparently, merely supporting reparations without actually doing anything about it is enough to convince black people to vote Democrat because the Repubs are racist....

You know, if Dems got "only" 70% of the black vote, that would make the popular vote virtually a dead heat.

Yes because black people are stupid 

geeblock Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:15 PM

Maybe they vote dem because of the republicans are lined up with white supremacy?

https://mobile.twitter.com/philipindc/status/1141067843905249283

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:15 PM
posted by Spock

 

Yea CNN is hitting Biden hard.  They are obviously interfering in our elections

I think he's still the mainstream media choice at the moment as the one most likely to beat Trump.  This is nothing more than laundering the dirt - get it all out there now, and if it comes up in the general election it's "old news".

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:26 PM
posted by geeblock

Maybe they vote dem because of the republicans are lined up with white supremacy?

https://mobile.twitter.com/philipindc/status/1141067843905249283

DUDE. The proud boys are not all white, and the OK sign is a joke that the media has been duped into thinking is racist by 4chan. Come on.

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:32 PM
posted by geeblock

I didn’t comment on reparations I could care less. My point is that the argument about “5 generations ago” or “no one alive” is stupid. Jim Crow was just as bad as slavery. There are a million reasons to be against reparations without those two 

Jim Crow was terrible, but to say it was as bad as slavery is just terrible and wrong. 

geeblock Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:32 PM
posted by iclfan2

DUDE. The proud boys are not all white, and the OK sign is a joke that the media has been duped into thinking is racist by 4chan. Come on.

Pick another white nationalist group that was random. They all support trump. You can’t really expect black people to vote for trump can you?

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:33 PM
posted by geeblock

When slavery ended the slaves had no money and nowhere to go so yes for a while it was worse although I’m sure they were glad to not get raped and beaten 

You contradicted yourself with the last statement. Definitely was bad, but not worse. 

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:35 PM
posted by geeblock

Maybe they vote dem because of the republicans are lined up with white supremacy?

https://mobile.twitter.com/philipindc/status/1141067843905249283

I missed the part where Republicans we’re supporting this group?

geeblock Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:35 PM

On second thought no the proud boys are an alt right racist group after reading a few articles. I’ll listen if u want to change my mind rbo

geeblock Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:42 PM
posted by jmog

Jim Crow was terrible, but to say it was as bad as slavery is just terrible and wrong. 

You could just as easily get lynched and even if you were arrested the jury would deliberate ten minutes then everyone would go have a cookout. So you can argue degrees or semantics I guess but in my eyes both were equally as damaging to the black race in this co

majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 2:49 PM
posted by geeblock

Yes because black people are stupid 

Most people are what is your point?

majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 3:05 PM
posted by geeblock

Yes because black people are stupid 

This is an example of how the game is played.  Gut made a comment about a specific situation with a specific context.  But Gut is painted as a possible racist because he thinks black people are stupid.  I have read many a post from Gut actually using the term "stupid" to define people and they were in reference to white people.

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 3:05 PM
posted by geeblock

Pick another white nationalist group that was random. They all support trump. You can’t really expect black people to vote for trump can you?

Communists vote for democrats, does that make them communists? Just because white supremacists vote for Trump doesn't make Trump a white supremacist.

Your logic is flawed. Look at the policies not what group votes for the person.

 

 

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 3:07 PM
posted by geeblock

You could just as easily get lynched and even if you were arrested the jury would deliberate ten minutes then everyone would go have a cookout. So you can argue degrees or semantics I guess but in my eyes both were equally as damaging to the black race in this co

Oh good lord...yeah, blacks had it worse after slavery...come on geeblock, you know better than that.

 

Lynchings/beatings/rapings happened to SOME blacks after slavery, but all of those happened to MOST (or at least many) while they were slaves. To believe that it happened more after to offset the "benefit" of not being a slave anymore is asinine.

geeblock Member
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Thu, Jun 20, 2019 3:15 PM
posted by majorspark

This is an example of how the game is played.  Gut made a comment about a specific situation with a specific context.  But Gut is painted as a possible racist because he thinks black people are stupid.  I have read many a post from Gut actually using the term "stupid" to define people and they were in reference to white people.

I didn’t say he was racist but his post directly implied that black people aren’t smart enough to pick the candidate based on the issues that they believe in and instead suggested they are voting Democrat so they can get reparations. I responded with the main reason people vote democratic in my op

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