Progressives, part 3...

posted by QuakerOats

 

 

Why fight for the ‘privilege’ of paying more than double for real estate, and maintenance, and wages etc..etc…. on top of dealing with ungrateful and ignorant politicians.  Screw ‘em; go elsewhere, be wanted, and save money.

My point is that these factors are all commonly known, so why go through the exercise and assume you'd be exempted?  Clearly from the year-long courting campaign, there are dozens of other deserving communities that would have been glad to be selected.  Amazon strung everyone along with their publicly handling this process.  They pick NYC and then they are shocked that the local politics are among the many things that would make locating there much costlier than virtually anywhere else?  That's a bad look for them unless they did it on purpose to gain public sympathy.  But I doubt that.  

Like I said, I support Amazon's right to put its businesses wherever it wants to.  I only fault them for seemingly being caught off guard by this.  Seems like an amateur mistake by a company with so many resources.  

posted by Spock

Didnt google it.  Heard Rush Limbaugh say it

Cool. You're not only an idiot, but also lazy and gullible enough to automatically believe the words of people whose careers are dependent on their listeners being lazy, gullible idiots.

posted by Spock

Didnt google it.  Heard Rush Limbaugh say it

Not buying that, unless it was tongue-in-cheek.  Since there are complete transcripts of his broadcasts it can be checked if you know what day.

The bottom line – AOC and other liberals champion $15 / hour wages; then sabotage thousands of $150,000 jobs.  Special kind of hypocrisy and stupidity there.

posted by QuakerOats

 

Not buying that, unless it was tongue-in-cheek.  Since there are complete transcripts of his broadcasts it can be checked if you know what day.

Are u implying that Rush doesn’t say things that aren’t true?

posted by QuakerOats

 

The bottom line – AOC and other liberals champion $15 / hour wages; then sabotage thousands of $150,000 jobs.  Special kind of hypocrisy and stupidity there.

Another fun tidbit:

Those championing $15/hr minimum wages and the rich paying their "fair share" are quick to point to countries like Sweden and Norway as evidence that socialism can work.

Both Sweden and Norway: flat tax and no minimum wage

This is interesting: https://twitter.com/ZachG932/status/1098403734139355136

43% of Democrats vs. 70% of Republicans think that people "should be allowed to express unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive". Strikingly, a similar proportion of Democrats support speech restrictions (39%).

By far the most supportive of speech restrictions are--wait for it--white liberals and democrats in the 18-29 age category.

 The whole thread is full of data and graphs and comparable data from a few years prior. I have to say that Jon Haidt (and others) has been pointing out thoroughly researched reasons why this is happening with millenials and the oldest crop of Gen Z. The youngest crop of Gen Z is expected to be far less authoritarian.

posted by O-Trap

Another fun tidbit:

Those championing $15/hr minimum wages and the rich paying their "fair share" are quick to point to countries like Sweden and Norway as evidence that socialism can work.

Both Sweden and Norway: flat tax and no minimum wage

And Sweden and Norway (and Denmark too) are quick to point out that they are not socialist, they are capitalist with a large safety net.

posted by CenterBHSFan

This is interesting: https://twitter.com/ZachG932/status/1098403734139355136

By far the most supportive of speech restrictions are--wait for it--white liberals and democrats in the 18-29 age category.

 The whole thread is full of data and graphs and comparable data from a few years prior. I have to say that Jon Haidt (and others) has been pointing out thoroughly researched reasons why this is happening with millenials and the oldest crop of Gen Z. The youngest crop of Gen Z is expected to be far less authoritarian.

The left hates free speech, and it’s scary. That’s why I’m not sure why some of the right leaning libertarians on here are looking for a dem to vote for. They have nothing going for them.

posted by iclfan2

The left hates free speech, and it’s scary. That’s why I’m not sure why some of the right leaning libertarians on here are looking for a dem to vote for. They have nothing going for them.

I hate trump but they have nothing else for me so at this point I’d vote for him 

posted by iclfan2

The left hates free speech, and it’s scary. That’s why I’m not sure why some of the right leaning libertarians on here are looking for a dem to vote for. They have nothing going for them.

I can't really speak for anybody but as far as myself - I think I'm just keeping my options open. Fiscally I'm conservative but that is really just an idea at this point in time and not reality. I'm socially liberal, but that doesn't mean I support/enable biology deniers, for example. Because of all of this, I think it's best to take a look at both sides and see what others are pushing out. 
Believe it or not I'm appreciative that Trump wants to bring exported jobs back to the states but I don't think he's doing a good job of that despite all of the links that QO posts.
I like that Tulsi Gabbard wants to get out of the certain wars but I'm not sold on her otherwise.
I like the idea that Biden would be able to stand up to Trump at least for a little while but he's not selling me anything else other than a good showdown.
Bernie can go fuck himself. Same with Kamala, Booker and Warren. Klobuchar, who?

So here I am, stuck looking at something and everything that I don't want and itty bitty parts that I do. It's literally a puke kaleidoscope. Meh.
 

posted by geeblock

I hate trump but they have nothing else for me so at this point I’d vote for him 

Well tarnation! "Things I never thought I'd see" ;)

posted by CenterBHSFan

Well tarnation! "Things I never thought I'd see" ;)

My hypocrisy only goes so far ... I hate kamala Harris 

posted by geeblock

I hate trump but they have nothing else for me so at this point I’d vote for him 

Regardless whether you like Trump as a person.....his policies arent affecting you in any negative way.  His 2nd term will likely lead to more in your pocket and more derangulations

posted by Spock

Regardless whether you like Trump as a person.....his policies arent affecting you in any negative way.  His 2nd term will likely lead to more in your pocket and more derangulations

Agreed I won’t live long enough for him to ruin everything and I don’t have kids 

posted by Spock

Regardless whether you like Trump as a person.....his policies arent affecting you in any negative way.  His 2nd term will likely lead to more in your pocket and more derangulations

His twitter and platform does effect my  life negatively tho 

posted by geeblock

His twitter and platform does effect my  life negatively tho 

If someones twitter affects your life you have more issues to worry about them who is President.

posted by Spock

If someones twitter affects your life you have more issues to worry about them who is President.

Effect and the way his Twitter fires up people who don’t like me does matter. I get that u don’t see it 

posted by Spock

If someones twitter affects your life you have more issues to worry about them who is President.

This is one of those "even a broken clock is right twice a day" moments for CC.  Gblock needs a life if he is being serious.  I can't tell if he is. 

posted by iclfan2

The left hates free speech, and it’s scary. That’s why I’m not sure why some of the right leaning libertarians on here are looking for a dem to vote for. They have nothing going for them.

Because either way we’re fucked. Dems/repubs it doesn’t matter. They all suck. But at least with a dem I wouldn’t have to hear Trump mumble his way through a pointless speech, or read his illiterate tweets, or listen to crying liberals blame everything on him, or listen to redneck idiots like CC defend his every move like he’s their favorite basketball team’s best player. 

Sure there’d be other things that would start to annoy me, but it can’t be that bad.