Progressives, part 3...

  • Mon, Feb 11, 2019 4:28 PM

    People still continuously vote for democrat because they are voting for what they think the democrat ideal is, not what it currently is (reality).

    Look at all of the people who voted for Obama. They heard him talk and it sounded "about right" for what they think is liberality and democratic. But if they actually listened to his words and the context they were used in they probably would have thought much differently about it. He pretty much advertised cultural marxism in every way but that's not what people who believe in the democratic ideal actually heard. It flew right over their heads. Many refuse to admit it to this very day that they were hoodwinked.

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 8:28 AM

    So, it's been a little while since I was on Facebook. Looked there this morning and discovered one of my cousins having a breakdown of sorts. 

    If you are a Trump sympathizer and want to defend him at all cost do me a favor and unfriend me or better yet block me because I dont want to see your shit on my feed!!!

     Why do you all love trump? If your child walked in your house and said to your wife your stupid and then you asked them where they heard that and they said my President Trump what would you say and or do???

     The only votes trump is getting is the ones that drank that trump koolaid and no matter what will defend him which is called a cult but we wont get into that at this time... #Screwtrump

    He's said things like this before but not quite so vehemently. I have to laugh because I can't imagine willingly taking things that far, it just doesn't seem real. Not sure what Trump did to set him off this time but I think that Trump finally broke him. This is family, friends and co-workers he is posting this to hah!

    My question is: Why would anybody let Trump be the gatekeeper over how they react to the point where you are willing to cut ties with family? There are many people in our family who voted for Obama and even though I couldn't stand Obama I would never cut ties with those people because of it. 
    It's simply amazing to me how quickly things have devolved.

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 8:52 AM
    posted by CenterBHSFan

    So, it's been a little while since I was on Facebook. Looked there this morning and discovered one of my cousins having a breakdown of sorts. 

     Why do you all love trump? If your child walked in your house and said to your wife your stupid and then you asked them where they heard that and they said my President Trump what would you say and or do???

     The only votes trump is getting is the ones that drank that trump koolaid and no matter what will defend him which is called a cult but we wont get into that at this time... #Screwtrump

    He's said things like this before but not quite so vehemently. I have to laugh because I can't imagine willingly taking things that far, it just doesn't seem real. Not sure what Trump did to set him off this time but I think that Trump finally broke him. This is family, friends and co-workers he is posting this to hah!

    My question is: Why would anybody let Trump be the gatekeeper over how they react to the point where you are willing to cut ties with family? There are many people in our family who voted for Obama and even though I couldn't stand Obama I would never cut ties with those people because of it. 
    It's simply amazing to me how quickly things have devolved.

    I think your cousin fits the definition of "polititard".  Anyone who allows their happiness to be dictated by political goings-on is destined for unhappiness.  Sorry for your family though.  I have a couple of extended family relatives like this (pro Trump and anti Trump).  They let the political winds consume and control them.  They seem miserable.  There is not a topic out there that they cannot bring back to either their hatred for Trump (in one's case) or their  hatred for the "liberals" (in another's case)..  I mean that quite literally.  

     

    "You going anywhere for spring break?"

    "No, I can't afford to.  As with the federal workers Trump threw out on the streets, I'm living paycheck-to-paycheck.  Since Trump and his partners have given corporations free reign over our society, decent wages for working people are a thing of the past.  I can't afford a family trip like once was the norm before successive Republican administrations destroyed the middle class."

    or 

    "That was a boring Super Bowl."
    "That's because football has been watered down for 'safety' reasons.  Liberal values have so invaded our society, that any form of aggressiveness has been eliminated.  Soon they'll be no more sports in Obama and Pelosi's 'United States of San Francisco'.

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 10:03 AM
    posted by CenterBHSFan

    My question is: Why would anybody let Trump be the gatekeeper over how they react to the point where you are willing to cut ties with family?

    Both sides are like this, and they all fit broadly into the "regressive" category, though have extreme hatred for the other.  The racists and bigots usually get labeled conservative and lumped on the far right.  I hate manufactured terms as if these groups, like "alt-right" suddenly sprang-up, but there's also definitely an "alt-left", and they're more obnoxious and open because no one holds them accountable.

    That right-wing tends to get marginalized by everyone, including Republicans.  The difference is, on the left, the hatred/bigotry is enabled with a sort of quid-pro-quo or they "deserve it".  It's OK for antifa to go throw rocks at alt-right demonstration, because those guys are vile white men.

    It doesn't help that the left routinely contorts every disagreement/counter argument to say it's covert racism.  You're actually fostering hatred, simply because you don't want to have the debate....or you can't win the debate so you nullify the contest.

     

    2020 will be interesting.  The old guard in the Dems clearly is not thrilled with the likes of AOC and other radicals/socialists.  Pelosi may be awful, but she's a very effective politician - I don't think the Dems are going to allow their party to fracture, or get pulled off the deep end by these nutjobs.  But they probably need another ass-kicking before they'll abandon identity politics.

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 10:06 AM

    You guys should start a “radical left” thread and post that shit there. These stories posted on here are not progressives, they’re radical far left nutjobs. 

    I’m all for the anti-progressive movement, but when you post dumb shit said by dumb people and group it in with groups you dislike (dems, progressives, etc) it kinda ruins the point of the thread. 

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 10:13 AM
    posted by SportsAndLady

    You guys should start a “radical left” thread and post that shit there. These stories posted on here are not progressives, they’re radical far left nutjobs. 

    I’m all for the anti-progressive movement, but when you post dumb shit said by dumb people and group it in with groups you dislike (dems, progressives, etc) it kinda ruins the point of the thread. 

    What's the difference these days?

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 10:16 AM
    posted by like_that

    What's the difference these days?

    Progressives just have different beliefs than you (and me). Radical left nutjobs are crazy people with no brain. 

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 10:34 AM

    The problem with far left nutjobs is that they are treated as someone talking for the whole country.  When in reality they should only be doing the bidding for their districts

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 10:36 AM
    posted by Spock

    The problem with far left nutjobs is that they are treated as someone talking for the whole country.  When in reality they should only be doing the bidding for their districts

    Take the tinfoil hat off. They’re not speaking for the country. You’re afraid of that, but they’re not. 

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 6:02 PM
    posted by SportsAndLady

    Take the tinfoil hat off. They’re not speaking for the country. You’re afraid of that, but they’re not. 

    then why are they talking about nationwide policy change and the media is treating them like they are nationwide?

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 6:39 PM
    posted by Spock

    then why are they talking about nationwide policy change and the media is treating them like they are nationwide?

    They're TALKING ABOUT IT!? No way! Wow, you must be right, they're taking over the world!!

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 6:58 PM
    posted by SportsAndLady

    Progressives just have different beliefs than you (and me). Radical left nutjobs are crazy people with no brain. 

    I think you're missing the entire point of this thread. 

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 7:11 PM
    posted by SportsAndLady

    They're TALKING ABOUT IT!? No way! Wow, you must be right, they're taking over the world!!

    Most of the presidential candidates agreed with the dumbass green new deal. (Other than Biden and Bernie). Don’t be dense. The left crazies are not as far left as you make them out to be. 

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 8:08 PM
    posted by iclfan2

    Most of the presidential candidates agreed with the dumbass green new deal. (Other than Biden and Bernie). Don’t be dense. The left crazies are not as far left as you make them out to be. 

    Uh huh lol 

    Paranoia settling in!

    Tue, Feb 12, 2019 10:10 PM

    Watching the town hall with Howard Schultz.   Damn....hard Not to like him.

    Wed, Feb 13, 2019 8:51 AM
    posted by Spock

    Watching the town hall with Howard Schultz.   Damn....hard Not to like him.

    LOL, is it that easy to fool you?  2 years ago you would be posting about how much of a leftist joke he is.  Make no mistake about it, he is a leftist. 

    Wed, Feb 13, 2019 9:31 AM
    posted by like_that

    LOL, is it that easy to fool you?  2 years ago you would be posting about how much of a leftist joke he is.  Make no mistake about it, he is a leftist. 

    You gonna question the guy that predicted the Trump election?  I see nothing with blinders on.  The Dems are pissed at him for running.  CNN is allowing him air time to try to get a Gotcha moment to run against him.  

     

    In regards to him being a "leftist".....his is far right from the Dem party right now.  

    Wed, Feb 13, 2019 9:57 AM
    posted by Spock

    CNN is allowing him air time to try to get a Gotcha moment to run against him. 

    Now is that intentional, or is CNN really that stupid?  My theory is Trump has been very good for ratings, for all, and they secretly want him re-elected. You don't meet many people who put politics ahead of money (that's why financial/economic pieces are about the most objective news you'll read).

    Because you give this guy enough free air time you'll pretty much guarantee he takes enough votes to give the election to Trump.  I could see Schultz easily capturing twice the votes that Jill Stein and Gary Johnson got, combined.

    Wed, Feb 13, 2019 10:41 AM
    posted by Spock

    You gonna question the guy that predicted the Trump election?  I see nothing with blinders on.  The Dems are pissed at him for running.  CNN is allowing him air time to try to get a Gotcha moment to run against him.  

     

    In regards to him being a "leftist".....his is far right from the Dem party right now.  

    LOL at thinking you have credibility.

     

    Now that I got that out of the way, you stated you like the guy.  Based on your posts/beliefs you shouldn't like the guy, because he is no doubt a leftist.  Now, if you were discussing his chances to steal votes (you weren't), I would agree with you.  I think he very much can steal votes from the Dems depending on who their candidate is and this is why a lot of people on the left are attacking him.   If a "moderate" dem wins the primary, I don't see Schultz doing much damage. 

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