Progressives, part 3...

geeblock Member
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Wed, Oct 10, 2018 4:56 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

I have never said that racism did not exist. I have never believed it didn't. You're trying appropriate thoughts where they do not exist. But it is pretty damn funny that the same network who has seizures about old white men laugh when people say "dumb negro" and "token negro". And it obviously bothers you that it was done and that it was pointed out as the hypocrisy that it is.

As far as Kanye I don’t think he is a sell out or Uncle Tom or whatever term you want to use. I think he doesn’t have a great understanding of the things he talks about and is easily swayed or inspired by listening to a video or speech but lacks Real understanding. I also think he doesn’t do a good job of getting what he is trying to say across because of his lack of real understanding. I do however think the opposite of Candace Owens I do think she is just a mouth piece who is being used, but I don’t begrudge her for it. I might even do the same for a price. As far as my opinion between what the parties have done for or against black people, I feel they both have spent the last 100 years doing equal damage or probly even longer. I see people blaming the dems by saying what have they don’t for blacks, but as I see it there are zero policies that the gop were  against that the dems passed outside of welfare and Medicare etc.. other than that the policies regarding blacks have been identical. Dems weren’t the only ones to use the terms war on drugs and super predator.. I get that a higher percentage of black people are on welfare, but given the fact that many millions more whites are in public aid, I don’t get how welfare is holding blacks back and is a conspiracy, yet whites have almost no association with these programs despite being the majority of people using them. There are many more problems holding black people back than feeding hungry children. And now instead of education, trump wants to bring stop and frisk to Chicago. Guess what color people will be stopped and frisked?

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Oct 10, 2018 4:58 PM

In the past week you got Booker saying get in people's face, Hillary saying to be uncivil until the dems win the house or Senate, and Eric dumbass holder saying when the right goes low we kick them.

There is only one side advocating violence and everyone condoning it. I hate how this is acceptable for one side and the media loves it. There is never going to be reconciliation between parties at this point.

There was an interesting graph of when parties started hating each other but I couldn't find it. Up until 2000 it was not bad, Dems started hating repubs after 2000, and then Repubs started hating dems in 2008. Now we are at an all time high.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, Oct 10, 2018 5:19 PM
posted by iclfan2

There was an interesting graph of when parties started hating each other but I couldn't find it. Up until 2000 it was not bad, Dems started hating repubs after 2000, and then Repubs started hating dems in 2008. Now we are at an all time high.

 

Tim Pool was just talking about this, if we're thinking of the same graph. Let me see if I can find the vid...

Here's the vid:
 

 

 

Here's the interactive graph: http://www.people-press.org/interactives/political-polarization-1994-2017/

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Oct 10, 2018 6:05 PM

This is the one I saw

geeblock Member
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Wed, Oct 10, 2018 6:31 PM

It’s just weird to see everything be about race for 100 years now the same people cry let’s not make anything about race.. it’s hila

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Oct 10, 2018 7:39 PM

I think that chart says the two parties are successfully dividing up the electorate and locking-in votes.  Incumbents want for nothing more than for you to hate the other party, because they don't have to win your vote, just convince you to go vote (which is generally an easier task since most voters vote regularly).

Truth be told, both parties loved that Kavanaugh mess.  Screw all the people you exploited, denigrated and invaded privacy of....both parties got their bases fired up!  Win-win!!!

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Oct 10, 2018 7:49 PM
posted by gut

Truth be told, both parties loved that Kavanaugh mess.  Screw all the people you exploited, denigrated and invaded privacy of....both parties got their bases fired up!  Win-win!!!

Agreed, but one was already fired up (to kill Trump) and the other wasn’t. I don’t think there is a question who the Kav thing was worse for. 

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Oct 10, 2018 7:58 PM
posted by iclfan2

Agreed, but one was already fired up (to kill Trump) and the other wasn’t. I don’t think there is a question who the Kav thing was worse for. 

I just hope the Repubs can keep the Senate, because I think Trump will get to appoint another SCOTUS.  Although I prefer a non-partisan SCOTUS, I definitely don't want a liberal leaning one legislating from the bench.

geeblock Member
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Wed, Oct 10, 2018 8:54 PM
posted by iclfan2

This is the one I saw

Lebron just dribble.. Taylor Swift just stick to music.. Kanye.. hero 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Oct 10, 2018 9:01 PM
posted by geeblock

Lebron just dribble.. Taylor Swift just stick to music.. Kanye.. hero 

No idea what this means. But Taylor has 0 impact in Tennessee. 

superman Senior Member
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Wed, Oct 10, 2018 10:35 PM
posted by geeblock

Lebron just dribble.. Taylor Swift just stick to music.. Kanye.. hero 

Claims to be against racism.  Doesn't care that CNN called Kanye a negro twice on air.

geeblock Member
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Thu, Oct 11, 2018 7:22 AM
posted by superman

Claims to be against racism.  Doesn't care that CNN called Kanye a negro twice on air.

CNN called Kanye a negro? Or a black person called another black person negro?

superman Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 11, 2018 11:04 AM
posted by geeblock

CNN called Kanye a negro? Or a black person called another black person negro?

Two CNN panelists called Kanye a Negro.  Don Lemonhead almost feel out of his chair laughing.  Network censors did nothing.  

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 11, 2018 11:27 AM
posted by iclfan2

In the past week you got Booker saying get in people's face, Hillary saying to be uncivil until the dems win the house or Senate, and Eric dumbass holder saying when the right goes low we kick them.

There is only one side advocating violence and everyone condoning it. I hate how this is acceptable for one side and the media loves it. There is never going to be reconciliation between parties at this point.

 

 

The left has now engaged in:

 

Shooting republicans

Stabbing republicans

Threatening republicans

Chasing republicans

Harassing republicans

Doxxing republicans

 

My sense is, they need to dial it down – NOW.

 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 11, 2018 11:39 AM
posted by QuakerOats

The left has now engaged in:

 

Shooting republicans

Stabbing republicans

Threatening republicans

Chasing republicans

Harassing republicans

Doxxing republicans

 

My sense is, they need to dial it down – NOW.

 

Markets down over 1,000 points in last two days. Change we can [really] believe in? 

Spock Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 11, 2018 11:46 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

Markets down over 1,000 points in last two days. Change we can [really] believe in? 

Please......still up almost 7,000 the past 2 years

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 11, 2018 11:47 AM
posted by Spock

Please......still up almost 7,000 the past 2 years

Because Trump, amirite?

Spock Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 11, 2018 11:48 AM
posted by superman

Two CNN panelists called Kanye a Negro.  Don Lemonhead almost feel out of his chair laughing.  Network censors did nothing.  

Kanye needs to drop a new song and add some anti left lyrics.  The meltdown would be epic

geeblock Member
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Thu, Oct 11, 2018 12:07 PM
posted by superman

Two CNN panelists called Kanye a Negro.  Don Lemonhead almost feel out of his chair laughing.  Network censors did nothing.  

Is a black person referring to another person as a negro racist? Or are you really upset he called him token 

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Thu, Oct 11, 2018 12:24 PM
posted by geeblock

Is a black person referring to another person as a negro racist? Or are you really upset he called him token 

Please don't take this as me defending or endorsing Fox News in any way, but what do you think the response would be if a conservative black panelist called a black liberal that name on Fox News? I could be wrong, but I think the outrage machine would kick into high gear.

Also, this discussion reminds me of this scene from Black-ish.

 

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