Progressives, part 3...

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  • Thu, Feb 27, 2020 2:47 PM
    posted by jmog

    So I am not the only one that most POTUS elections votes one way for POTUS and the opposite party for the HoR and Senate hoping for gridlock?

    For the most part, I just prefer that the houses are split, and not by narrow margins.  Limits the influence of the Executive branch altogether, since he or she can't sign what hasn't reached his or her desk.

    Still makes way for EOs, but I don't know that I trust any one person to wield that well, short of national holidays and putting flags at half staff.

    Thu, Feb 27, 2020 3:02 PM
    posted by jmog

    So I am not the only one that most POTUS elections votes one way for POTUS and the opposite party for the HoR and Senate hoping for gridlock?

    I cannot deny that I have done this as well. Personally, I'm cool with the status quo, so I don't care about one side's half-baked attempts to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN or the other side's desire to completely overhaul our system entirely because this person committed a gun crime and that one felt marginalized due to various reasons. So, I'd prefer gridlock so everyone can just shout at each other and nothing gets done, as opposed to a bunch of rich idiots using politics as a way to place themselves on a pedestal above us all making actual decisions that might impact my life. 

    Thu, Feb 27, 2020 3:08 PM
    posted by Heretic

    So, I'd prefer gridlock so everyone can just shout at each other and nothing gets done, as opposed to a bunch of rich idiots using politics as a way to place themselves on a pedestal above us all making actual decisions that might impact my life. 


    Thu, Feb 27, 2020 3:09 PM

    LOL Baltimore's crooked ass ex-Mayor got sentenced to 3 years in prison for making a hospital who's board she sat on buy her shitty children's book (amongst other transgressions). Funny how all the same cities seem to be tied to corruption. 

    Thu, Feb 27, 2020 6:12 PM
    posted by QuakerOats

     

     

    Hard to believe, truly.

    I can't fathom how people think this is truly the best way to live. I know "but, but, but...NORWAY !!!!"

    Fri, Feb 28, 2020 10:01 AM

    So was I the only one watching the debate who felt like it was old school WWF with the trash talk and personal attacks?

    Fri, Feb 28, 2020 10:52 AM
    posted by gut

    So was I the only one watching the debate who felt like it was old school WWF with the trash talk and personal attacks?

    I've stopped watching them for this cycle until the general election.

    Tue, Mar 10, 2020 7:18 AM

    Tue, Mar 10, 2020 10:59 AM
    posted by justincredible

    Cuomo using prison labor to make hand sanitizer is capitalisms fault. Because reasons.

    https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1237037851356905475

    People seem to equate capitalism with exploited labor as opposed to free market.

    This is the kind of shit that makes me start Googling expatriation topics.

     

     

    Tue, Mar 10, 2020 2:34 PM

    LMFAO....Trump is going to get re-elected and they're going to blame the coronavirus - and they'll claim the inadequate response was intentional for that purpose.  In other words, Trump is colluding with coronavirus (you can see this coming)!

    But seriously.  Trump and the Repubs are downplaying the virus, while the Dems are crying [hoping] Armageddon.  Which voters do you think are more likely to stay home come November?

    Tue, Mar 10, 2020 3:40 PM
    posted by gut

    LMFAO....Trump is going to get re-elected and they're going to blame the coronavirus - and they'll claim the inadequate response was intentional for that purpose.  In other words, Trump is colluding with coronavirus (you can see this coming)!

    But seriously.  Trump and the Repubs are downplaying the virus, while the Dems are crying [hoping] Armageddon.  Which voters do you think are more likely to stay home come November?

    I think it comes down to the Trump-lovers-under-any-conditions vs. the Trump-haters-under-any-conditions.  While both groups are vocal, I believe there are more in the former.  Biden is a not a candidate that will inspire.  In fact, he's probably regarded as a huge letdown.  He is not going to get enough "people who are not in the Trump-hater camp, but will vote against Trump nonetheless" voters to come out to make up the difference between the lovers and haters.

     

    It is funny how both extremes (as they always do) use something like coronavirus as a political argument.  The left wing acts like Trump is thwarting response to supress dissent.  The right wingers claim it is a conspiracy between the media and democrats to "weaponize" a disease that is really just a common cold in disguise.

     

     

    Tue, Mar 10, 2020 3:47 PM
    posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

    It is funny how both extremes (as they always do) use something like coronavirus as a political argument.  The left wing acts like Trump is thwarting response to supress dissent.  The right wingers claim it is a conspiracy between the media and democrats to "weaponize" a disease that is really just a common cold in disguise.

    There's a good chance CV-19 gets cranked back up around election time.  I don't think there's any question it will suppress turnout.  Even if you expand mail-in ballots.  It might actually have the unexpected effect of INCREASING turnout in 60+.....because one thing the geezers still pwn is snail mail.  They might not remember to vote on election day, but eventually they'll remember to mail that ballot in!

    It's crazy to think about.  What if turnout was half what it usually was?  Voters on the losing side are going to completely lose their shit about how the results aren't valid because of supressed turnout.

    Wed, Mar 11, 2020 7:20 AM
    posted by gut

    LMFAO....Trump is going to get re-elected and they're going to blame the coronavirus - and they'll claim the inadequate response was intentional for that purpose.  In other words, Trump is colluding with coronavirus (you can see this coming)!

    But seriously.  Trump and the Repubs are downplaying the virus, while the Dems are crying [hoping] Armageddon.  Which voters do you think are more likely to stay home come November?

     

    BS talking point.  Trump enacted a "racist" travel ban a month ago.  THe left went bent on how racist it was.  They brought Americans back and put them on military bases for 2 weeks under lockdown.  Dont post the medias lies on here.

    The CDC and NIH had funding increased long before this happened (you wouldnt know this if you watch CNN all day)

     

    Wed, Mar 11, 2020 10:25 AM

     

    When obama floated the payroll tax cut back in the ’09 financial crisis, all the dems embraced it, and it was bipartisan; when Trump floats the payroll tax cut now, all the dems bitch and moan. 

     

    They really are a disgusting evil group.

    Wed, Mar 11, 2020 10:40 AM
    posted by QuakerOats

     

    When obama floated the payroll tax cut back in the ’09 financial crisis, all the dems embraced it, and it was bipartisan; when Trump floats the payroll tax cut now, all the dems bitch and moan. 

     

    They really are a disgusting evil group.

    You're not wrong.  However, they're not the only party that has flip-flopped on it.

    Wed, Mar 11, 2020 10:55 AM
    posted by QuakerOats

     

    When obama floated the payroll tax cut back in the ’09 financial crisis, all the dems embraced it, and it was bipartisan; when Trump floats the payroll tax cut now, all the dems bitch and moan. 

     

    They really are a disgusting evil group.

    They definitely have flip-flopped on this and it is very hypocritical.  That said, if this meets your threshold for "disgusting evil", then I hate to tell you that you are going to have to put your beloved president in that category too for his myriad of flip-flops.  

    Wed, Mar 11, 2020 11:02 AM

     

     

    The whole of their behavior over the last 3 years is what qualifies them as disgusting and evil.  This is just icing on the cake.

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