posted by geeblockJust to be clear what parts of the accusations are you saying aren’t true? I’m assuming obviously that he withheld funds unless they helped with Biden. Anything else?
You think this is the first time this has happened? EVERY president likely plays this game with other countries.
posted by SpockYou think this is the first time this has happened? EVERY president likely plays this game with other countries.
I can understand someone making the argument that what he did was not illegal. I can not understand QO logic in trying to say that It’s some conspiracy and some lie. From what I can tell trump freely admits he did it and thinks it’s not illegal.
posted by gutIf most of our politicians weren't committed to being career politicians, the sane people in both parties would have already broken off to form a plurality 3rd party.
In order to have a viable 3rd party candidate you have to have things blow up enough that both the far right and far left simultaneously get behind a viable candidate in their ilk otherwise they will vote for the lesser of two evils.
At this point I will vote for Trump hoping something else emerges from the ashes. The things the guy is accused of has been happening on a daily basis in Washington with multiple politicians. Career politicians are loathed by many but yet still voted for because of the evil other.
Lets be frank the only way you get a viable 3rd party candidate is to defeat the Washington establishments on both sides. I used to fear a multiparty system given a nutjob gets the needed electoral votes by spitting the others but the founders gave us enough checks and balances to handle it.
posted by justincredibleAnd, it turns out, the "journo" in question also had racist, homophobic tweets from 6-8 years ago.
He gone. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
posted by geeblockthe transcript wasn't released, and i think that is the whole point of the whistleblower complaint is that there was recording that the WH worked to suppress. Im not sure it really matters tho, its not like hes really denying what hes being accused of but rather saying its not a big deal.
The transcript was most certainly released. It was released first and the whistleblower report released the following day.
I am not sure what you are missing.
posted by geeblockJust to be clear what parts of the accusations are you saying aren’t true? I’m assuming obviously that he withheld funds unless they helped with Biden. Anything else?
The call and facts don't support your last sentence.
This is staggering; they are literally attempting another coup in order to cover up their first coup attempt.
Jesus Christ.
posted by jmogThe transcript was most certainly released. It was released first and the whistleblower report released the following day.
I am not sure what you are missing.
From what I understood it was a “summary” of the call and not an official transcript or word for word from a recording
posted by jmogThe call and facts don't support your last sentence.
I was saying that obviously QO disagrees that he leveraged them for a favor, but other than that trump has basically said everything else in the call was true unless I’m missing something. It didn’t take some cia spy. Trump and Giuliani did press conferences/interviews saying they asked them to look into biden
posted by QuakerOats
This is staggering; they are literally attempting another coup in order to cover up their first coup attempt.
Jesus Christ.
You are batshit crazy.
posted by QuakerOats
This is staggering; they are literally attempting another coup in order to cover up their first coup attempt.
Jesus Christ.
I can't believe we let you people vote.
Do your due diligence.
Have a good weekend.
posted by geeblockFrom what I understood it was a “summary” of the call and not an official transcript or word for word from a recording
There is no such thing as an "official word for word transcript". They don't record calls either. Its live listening and note taking.
posted by bigorangebuck22I can't believe we let you people vote.
"What do you mean 'you people'?"
posted by O-Trap"What do you mean 'you people'?"
white people with a 2x4 up their ass? I'm guessing...
Oh boy! New York City is trying to make it illegal to threaten someone to call ICE or call someone an Illegal Alien. Sounds a tad unconstitutional
posted by gutwhite people with a 2x4 up their ass? I'm guessing...
They want non-citizens to have the vote but not those lumber-augmented?
posted by gutwhite people with a 2x4 up their ass? I'm guessing...
Probably not a bad guess.
posted by queencitybuckeyeThey want non-citizens to have the vote but not those lumber-augmented?
I didn't catch the part where, uh *checks post*, bigorangebuck said anything about non-citizens. I just figured it was in response to yet another somewhat unhinged partisan rant on QQ's part where he comes off as completely rattled by whatever anti-Trump sentiment is making the rounds at a given time, regardless of whether it has merit, is a total nothingburger or there's currently not enough known to have a legit clue as to which of those categories it fits.
Personally, I find it funny because, from how he acts here, I can legit see him stressing himself into a coronary simply because some random person eight states over made an anti-Trump tweet that went viral.
posted by HereticI didn't catch the part where, uh *checks post*, bigorangebuck said anything about non-citizens. I just figured it was in response to yet another somewhat unhinged partisan rant on QQ's part where he comes off as completely rattled by whatever anti-Trump sentiment is making the rounds at a given time, regardless of whether it has merit, is a total nothingburger or there's currently not enough known to have a legit clue as to which of those categories it fits.
Personally, I find it funny because, from how he acts here, I can legit see him stressing himself into a coronary simply because some random person eight states over made an anti-Trump tweet that went viral.
Pretty much sums up my "you people" commnt. Though i'd throw in something about the batshit crazy right winger conspiracy theorists as well.
