posted by geeblockIt’s seems no matter how intelligent or how many degrees they have, people from brown countries don’t get to be seen as expatriates. They will always be “immigrants”. That isn’t always the case with other races or with Americans working/living abr
posted by gutI don't really understand how it could have been taken any other way.
Omar won 78% of the vote in district that is 67% white. I thought possibly he was making an argument that MIGHT apply to Tlaib, which is a large Muslim community around the Dearborn area got her elected. Of course, most of them are probably 3rd-4th generation American.
The impression I got was that she was able to be elected because our culture has been changed as a result of an influx of immigrants.
Doesn't really sound any better ... or more intelligent ... but derps are gonna derp.
posted by O-TrapThe impression I got was that she was able to be elected because our culture has been changed as a result of an influx of immigrants.
It's probably inevitable that the "minority" the wokest fight for will shift to actual non-Americans, basically illegals and would-be refugees. If you oppose open borders then I guess you're racist.
I'd also bet this movement will be decidedly anti-American in that they will actually advocate AGAINST assimilation, that it would be bigoted not to accommodate their culture and values. You don't even need to learn English - there's an app for that!
I can't wait for the hand grenade that the US Citizenship test should be available in Spanish without limitations.
posted by gutIt's probably inevitable that the "minority" the wokest fight for will shift to actual non-Americans, basically illegals and would-be refugees. If you oppose open borders then I guess you're racist.
I'd also bet this movement will be decidedly anti-American in that they will actually advocate AGAINST assimilation, that it would be bigoted not to accommodate their culture and values. You don't even need to learn English - there's an app for that!
I can't wait for the hand grenade that the US Citizenship test should be available in Spanish without limitations.
To even bring up open borders is stupid. No one is for open borders. You only deal with extremes. I’m sure there is a term for that but it’s hard to take u seriously when u always give an extreme example that is mostly not true to prove a point
posted by gutIt's probably inevitable that the "minority" the wokest fight for will shift to actual non-Americans, basically illegals and would-be refugees. If you oppose open borders then I guess you're racist.
I'd also bet this movement will be decidedly anti-American in that they will actually advocate AGAINST assimilation, that it would be bigoted not to accommodate their culture and values. You don't even need to learn English - there's an app for that!
I can't wait for the hand grenade that the US Citizenship test should be available in Spanish without limitations.
That's all already been in thought-processes. I've been pretty much told that assimilation doesn't have to happen, that after 10 years you shouldn't have to learn the common language of a country in order to even get help.
posted by geeblockTo even bring up open borders is stupid. No one is for open borders. You only deal with extremes. I’m sure there is a term for that but it’s hard to take u seriously when u always give an extreme example that is mostly not true to prove a point
Hmm... no one?
Also from the dem debate
”Raise your hand if you think it should be a civil offense, rather than a crime, to cross the border without documentation," said NBC's José Díaz-Balart.
All 10 candidates — Biden, Sanders, Buttigieg, Harris, Gillibrand, Bennet, Swalwell, Hickenlooper, Yang, Williamson — raised their hands in approval. That moment was perhaps the Democratic Party's most significant step yet toward embracing a policy of open borders.”
posted by geeblockNo one is for open borders.
Umm ... I am?
posted by gutI have literally never heard "expat" used to refer to anyone other than a US citizen living abroad, and immigrant is not a perjorative term. The definition of someone who migrates to another country is literally "immigrant".
Omar is both a first-generation American, and an immigrant. Both are correct. I'm not sure where you've imagined some racist overtone, again.
Gblock doesn't understand the words he uses? Shocker.
I stand corrected I didn’t think anyone was for open borders
posted by like_thatGblock doesn't understand the words he uses? Shocker.
I was referring to this article I read this morning
posted by geeblockI was referring to this article I read this morning
So, you pretty much proved my point that I have made numerous times. You can't come up with your own opinions. You read this op-ed and then posted it as your own take lol. Now you're playing it off as "referring" to the article, even though your original post made no mention of the article.
This article is the equivalent of the "damn white people and *shuffles deck of cards* and (insert made up victim terminology)" meme. As gut said, I have never heard anyone call anyone an expat other than people who live/work abroad, whether it is in the US or another country. An immigrant is referred to anyone who migrates to another country. The author of this article from siliconafrica.com is just pulling a fake controversy out of his ass. Some people just chose to find a reason to always be miserable I guess.
posted by like_thatSo, you pretty much proved my point that I have made numerous times. You can't come up with your own opinions. You read this op-ed and then posted it as your own take lol. Now you're playing it off as "referring" to the article, even though your original post made no mention of the article.
This article is the equivalent of the "damn white people and *shuffles deck of cards* and (insert made up victim terminology)" meme. As gut said, I have never heard anyone call anyone an expat other than people who live/work abroad, whether it is in the US or another country. An immigrant is referred to anyone who migrates to another country. The author of this article from siliconafrica.com is just pulling a fake controversy out of his ass. Some people just chose to find a reason to always be miserable I guess.
I agreed with the article. How else do you form and opinion. You either read something or experience something. In the future I will post sources lol sheesh
posted by O-TrapUmm ... I am?
That’s.... interesting. What’s your reasoning behind that belief?
posted by geeblockI plagiarized the article. How else do you form and opinion. You either read something or experience something. In the future I will post sources lol sheesh
FIFY.
Normally if you're going to use an op-ed as your own opinion, then you would post the article and provide your take. "I read this article. I agree, because blah blah blah." Look at O-Trap's "Democrat Hamburger" thread as an example. This is pretty basic stuff.
posted by geeblockI was referring to this article I read this morning
Why were you reading an article from 2015, from an author who has 2000 followers on twitter and hasn’t posted since 2016? With other articles like “100 amazing African cities completely destroyed by Europeans”.
You agreed with the article bc you don’t understand what words mean. Expat isn’t a color. If a black US citizen goes to England for work, he’s an expat.
posted by iclfan2That’s.... interesting. What’s your reasoning behind that belief?
This is one of those libertarian takes that I can't get behind. It's definitely a point of contention with those who consider themselves libertarian. I think you can be a libetarian and have much higher standards for border security.
posted by iclfan2Why were you reading an article from 2015, from an author who has 2000 followers on twitter and hasn’t posted since 2016? With other articles like “100 amazing African cities completely destroyed by Europeans”.
You agreed with the article bc you don’t understand what words mean. Expat isn’t a color. If a black US citizen goes to England for work, he’s an expat.
LOL, didn't even notice the date.
posted by iclfan2Why were you reading an article from 2015, from an author who has 2000 followers on twitter and hasn’t posted since 2016? With other articles like “100 amazing African cities completely destroyed by Europeans”.
You agreed with the article bc you don’t understand what words mean. Expat isn’t a color. If a black US citizen goes to England for work, he’s an expat.
It was posted in a thread on Twitter I was reading. It fits with many other things I have said here and I agreed with the way some people who go to other countries for work are viewed. You can agree or dis
posted by iclfan2That’s.... interesting. What’s your reasoning behind that belief?
Well, I basically teeter on the line between minarchist/libertarian and complete anarchocapitalist (might change depending on the day).
If one opposes the existence of the state, then one generally opposes the existence of guarded state borders.
Plus, hopping over an imaginary line, whether guarded or not, doesn't violate the NAP or even the most liberal use of John Stuart Mill's minimalist ethic.
I still strongly adhere to a philosophy that backs individual property rights, but it's because they're the property of private individual.
Plus, since the government is technically a public entity, and the border (and the property used by government to guard it) is subsequently public land, and land itself is included as one of the means of production, then technically, federal land or government property is a socialist concept.
posted by geeblockTo even bring up open borders is stupid. No one is for open borders. You only deal with extremes. I’m sure there is a term for that but it’s hard to take u seriously when u always give an extreme example that is mostly not true to prove a point
You seriously aren’t paying attention if you don’t believe the left wants open borders now.
