posted by gutIt would be an interesting court case. As soon as someone breaks a window, you have a decent argument for fearing for your life.
Also, they're not in a crosswalk and illegally blocking traffic. I'm not sure you'd get 12 jurors to convict that person of vehicular homicide.
Agreed with this. Once they bust out the window, who knows what they're going to do next. I think that's a legitimate case for fearing for your life. If I'm on that jury I'm not convicting someone for that.
Look who the citizens of Portland are. They'd have to take the case outside of that city for jurors to not side with the "poor" dead person who didn't deserve to die.
posted by gutIt would be an interesting court case. As soon as someone breaks a window, you have a decent argument for fearing for your life.
Also, they're not in a crosswalk and illegally blocking traffic. I'm not sure you'd get 12 jurors to convict that person of vehicular homicide.
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posted by CenterBHSFanWell then that person will be charged with vehicular homicide.
I mean it won’t be me, so that doesn’t worry me much. And good luck convicting (Jury case outside of Portland)
So, Colin Kaepernick was apparently offended by a prototype of Betsy Ross shoes that Nike was going to release, so Nike gave in and will now pull all the shoes. My personal opinion is that if a motif of the US flag offends you that much then you've got bigger problems than the damn shoes.
Colin Kaepernick is ok with flag burning and wearing pig socks meant to mock police but he's not ok with the flag on shoes.
Yeah, ok.
The bigger question is why is Nike giving this much credence to Kaepernick?
posted by CenterBHSFanSo, Colin Kaepernick was apparently offended by a prototype of Betsy Ross shoes that Nike was going to release, so Nike gave in and will now pull all the shoes. My personal opinion is that if a motif of the US flag offends you that much then you've got bigger problems than the damn shoes.
Colin Kaepernick is ok with flag burning and wearing pig socks meant to mock police but he's not ok with the flag on shoes.Yeah, ok.
The bigger question is why is Nike giving this much credence to Kaepernick?
Its ridiculous.
posted by CenterBHSFanThe bigger question is why is Nike giving this much credence to Kaepernick?
They went all in on being woke.
posted by CenterBHSFanSo, Colin Kaepernick was apparently offended by a prototype of Betsy Ross shoes that Nike was going to release, so Nike gave in and will now pull all the shoes. My personal opinion is that if a motif of the US flag offends you that much then you've got bigger problems than the damn shoes.
He’s such a little bitch
LOL at Eric Swalwell.
posted by CenterBHSFanSo, Colin Kaepernick was apparently offended by a prototype of Betsy Ross shoes that Nike was going to release, so Nike gave in and will now pull all the shoes. My personal opinion is that if a motif of the US flag offends you that much then you've got bigger problems than the damn shoes.
Colin Kaepernick is ok with flag burning and wearing pig socks meant to mock police but he's not ok with the flag on shoes.Yeah, ok.
The bigger question is why is Nike giving this much credence to Kaepernick?
I'm okay with his kneeling, speaking out, and choice of apparel. And I guess I'm okay with his having an opinion on a shoe design. But I think it's dumb for anyone to get pissed about this, and I think it's dumb that Nike has pulled the shoe.
At some point, someone on the top floor has to be getting tired of his shit when it costs them $$$ (which pulling a shoe that's already been produced obviously does).
posted by justincredibleLOL at Eric Swalwell.
LOL That's spectacular. To put up such a slanted, leading survey-style question and still fail in such an overwhelming fashion takes talent.
posted by justincredibleLOL at Eric Swalwell.
I had to get on Twitter to look this one up. It's up to 78K votes now with the same 79-21 margin. Seems to me that if I were in a profession that requires running for re-election every few years, I wouldn't be so adamant about saddling myself to a concept that's such a loser in peoples' eyes, to the degree that even if I lead the question with alarmist terminology, my preferred answer is still getting run out of the building.
posted by HereticIt's up to 78K votes now with the same 79-21 margin.
Don't be so quick to call this a failure - that's probably more votes than he'll get in the primaries.
posted by O-TrapAt some point, someone on the top floor has to be getting tired of his shit when it costs them $$$ (which pulling a shoe that's already been produced obviously does).
I'm not sure how much design and development cost actually went into slapping a colonial flag on the back of a shoe.
posted by HereticI had to get on Twitter to look this one up. It's up to 78K votes now with the same 79-21 margin. Seems to me that if I were in a profession that requires running for re-election every few years, I wouldn't be so adamant about saddling myself to a concept that's such a loser in peoples' eyes, to the degree that even if I lead the question with alarmist terminology, my preferred answer is still getting run out of the building.
Eh, he's from California. He'll likely get re-elected by a safe margin.
posted by justincredibleEh, he's from California. He'll likely get re-elected by a safe margin.
It really does make you wonder if AOC and Swalwell can get elected to Congress, truly anyone can.
Sadly those two are probably just the start of a wave of woke millenials who learned activism in college, rather than how to think.
posted by gutI'm not sure how much design and development cost actually went into slapping a colonial flag on the back of a shoe.
Ah, yeah. I overlooked the word "prototype."
In that case, I actually get why Nike pulled it. I still think it's dumb to be offended by it, but I don't blame them as much for nixing a prototype.
posted by gutIt really does make you wonder if AOC and Swalwell can get elected to Congress, truly anyone can.
Sadly those two are probably just the start of a wave of woke millenials who learned activism in college, rather than how to think.
that is a good way to put it.
posted by O-TrapAh, yeah. I overlooked the word "prototype."
In that case, I actually get why Nike pulled it. I still think it's dumb to be offended by it, but I don't blame them as much for nixing a prototype.
The article I read said they had already shipped it to stores, and they actually had to pull the shoes back. That isn't cheap. It was slated for release on 7/1, they'd have shipped it to stores in May or very early June.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nike-betsy-ross-shoe-colin-kaepernick_n_5d1ae58ae4b082e5536e727f
posted by iclfan2The article I read said they had already shipped it to stores, and they actually had to pull the shoes back.
posted by iclfan2The article I read said they had already shipped it to stores, and they actually had to pull the shoes back. That isn't cheap. It was slated for release on 7/1, they'd have shipped it to stores in May or very early June.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nike-betsy-ross-shoe-colin-kaepernick_n_5d1ae58ae4b082e5536e727f
Ah, see that was what I was thinking initially. If it had just been a design, it would have been less impactful for them. Still weird to take all their cues from a never-quite-made-it-back quarterback in the NFL as opposed to a team that does market research, but it's their money.
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