Poll: Drug War

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 312 reps Joined Apr 2010
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 11:11 AM
posted by Spock

Heroin should never be sold over the counter

Why not?

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 201 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 11:26 AM
posted by Spock

Heroin should never be sold over the counter

You're correct. Pure, clean heroin shouldn't be made available when you can buy heroin laced with who-knows-what from your friendly, local dealer. And I know as soon as it was made legal I'd rush right down and shoot up, so I am glad these laws are there to protect me from myself.

BoatShoes Senior Member
5,991 posts 23 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 11:41 AM
posted by justincredible

You're correct. Pure, clean heroin shouldn't be made available when you can buy heroin laced with who-knows-what from your friendly, local dealer. And I know as soon as it was made legal I'd rush right down and shoot up, so I am glad these laws are there to protect me from myself.

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like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 312 reps Joined Apr 2010
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 11:50 AM

I want cc to explain why it should not be sold over the counter if a private business makes the decision to make that product available. 

Heretic Son of the Sun
20,517 posts 190 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 12:22 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Legalize weed and that's about it. I'm not for a return to the late 19th century when there were opium houses all over the place and people used to get high and addicted to coke. 

That's what I call Friday night bruh!

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 201 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 1:04 PM
posted by like_that

I want cc to explain why it should not be sold over the counter if a private business makes the decision to make that product available. 

A common excuse I see is "the children!" My counter to that is, your neighborhood drug dealer doesn't check IDs but whoever is selling it over-the-counter will absolutely be checking IDs.

king kong Junior Member
3 posts 5 reps Joined Nov 2016
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 1:36 PM

Legalize everything, I see police, fire and squad responding to overdoses around here, spending hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars with ZERO money coming in to offset the costs!  Our county has doubled its funding of the county sheriff, meanwhile our infrastructure is crumbling around us!  They take a couple of dealers off the street, but the cost difference doesnt fiscally make sense to me!

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 201 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 2:00 PM
posted by king kong

Legalize everything, I see police, fire and squad responding to overdoses around here, spending hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars with ZERO money coming in to offset the costs!  Our county has doubled its funding of the county sheriff, meanwhile our infrastructure is crumbling around us!  They take a couple of dealers off the street, but the cost difference doesnt fiscally make sense to me!

Welcome. And yes, completely ending the drug war is the only option that makes economic sense, imo. 

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
7,259 posts 46 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 2:06 PM

I've actually changed my mind about drugs and people doing drugs.

Do whatever drug you want, however much you want. Hardcore drugs like heroin, for example. The stipulations would be: 

1.) You must carry a sufficient amount of life insurance for cremation or burial and all the included expenses (you'd be surprise how many people don't have life insurance)

2.) No Narcan if you overdose

This way there are no undue expenses to family or taxpayers. 

 

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 93 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 2:11 PM
posted by justincredible

A common excuse I see is "the children!" My counter to that is, your neighborhood drug dealer doesn't check IDs but whoever is selling it over-the-counter will absolutely be checking IDs.

There are a lot of neighborhoods in America that don't have a drug dealer.  Probably most, I would guess.  

If you can go down to the store and there's cocaine next to the beer, it's a safe bet cocaine use will increase.  Not everyone, but it's going to increase.  And some percentage of those people will become addicted.

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 201 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 2:18 PM
posted by gut

There are a lot of neighborhoods in America that don't have a drug dealer.  Probably most, I would guess.  

If you can go down to the store and there's cocaine next to the beer, it's a safe bet cocaine use will increase.  Not everyone, but it's going to increase.  And some percentage of those people will become addicted.

I guess I don't envision bags of cocaine sitting on a store shelf. Also, I disagree that most neighborhoods don't have a drug dealer.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 312 reps Joined Apr 2010
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 2:22 PM
posted by justincredible

I guess I don't envision bags of cocaine sitting on a store shelf. Also, I disagree that most neighborhoods don't have a drug dealer.

lol this.  

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 93 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 2:33 PM
posted by justincredible

Also, I disagree that most neighborhoods don't have a drug dealer.

Sure, it's the house with the green light above the side garage door.  Everyone knows this.

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 201 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 2:37 PM

The sleepy little rural area I grew up in had several back when I was in HS, I'm sure that hasn't changed.

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 93 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 2:41 PM
posted by justincredible

I guess I don't envision bags of cocaine sitting on a store shelf. 

How did you envision cocaine being sold?  It's going to be sold by a store, and most likely kept on a shelf.

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 201 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 2:46 PM
posted by gut

How did you envision cocaine being sold?  It's going to be sold by a store, and most likely kept on a shelf.

You ever been to a dispensary? They don't just have baggies of weed on the counter to grab.

king kong Junior Member
3 posts 5 reps Joined Nov 2016
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 4:27 PM
posted by justincredible

Welcome. And yes, completely ending the drug war is the only option that makes economic sense, imo. 

My old name was redstreakone, I came over during the great purge! Lol. My original email became locked so I signed up as King Kong!

 

Right now illegal drugs bring a zero net sum to the government, by legalizing it, now you have the money to properly oversee its distribution!  I live in a village of 2500, Piketon, you know that place where 8 people were executed and were involved in a very big marijuana grow operation! Lol. I haven’t partaken in any illicit drugs for many years, and I can guarantee you I could make 1phone call and find anything I want!

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
8,068 posts 112 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 4:53 PM

I've heard the argument to "legalize it and tax it", but is this not simply substituting one government intrusion for another?

king kong Junior Member
3 posts 5 reps Joined Nov 2016
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 5:26 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

I've heard the argument to "legalize it and tax it", but is this not simply substituting one government intrusion for another?

One intrusion costs taxpayers billions a year, the other doesn’t! L9l

 

Verbal Kint Senior Member
1,062 posts 16 reps Joined Jul 2017
Fri, Apr 27, 2018 6:29 PM

 

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