Pelosi trip cancelled by Trump

8,788 posts 21 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 7:20 AM
posted by gut

It's hard to be surprised anymore.....but, still, I can't quite process how politics has come down to a game of chicken with the paychecks of 800k people.

posted by CenterBHSFan

There are times when I wonder if this was something that had to happen. Our government has been ridiculous for so long this might be the kick in the pants that people need. 

 

I highly doubt this will lead to a kick in the pants. We have been going down this way for over 10 years. The budget fights of early 2010s have just gotten worse now.  Each side has zero incentive to bargain right now.  

posted by jmog

He didn’t misspell it. 

 

https://fandom-grammar.livejournal.com/69479.html

Thanks. I stand corrected. 
I still think the letter is a piece of work and is a hell of a "owning the libs" moment. 

 

wkfan Senior Member
1,850 posts 13 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 7:43 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

There are times when I wonder if this was something that had to happen. Our government has been ridiculous for so long this might be the kick in the pants that people need. 

As I have stated many times.......fire them all.  They have no interest in doing what is in the best interests of the American people unless it suits their own selfish interests.

Fire them all and institute term limits on the replacements.

We are being governed by children.

kizer permanente Senior Member
1,309 posts 14 reps Joined Aug 2017
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 7:55 AM

 I'm watching a friend who works for the federal government and not getting paid and run back and forth to Cincinnati because his 1 year old daughter is rejecting her liver transplant, and he doesn't have any money coming in. So for him and most of the 800k, it's not very amusing watching the president be immature.

Con_Alma Senior Member
12,320 posts 31 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 8:42 AM

The outrage should be placed with the House of Representatives because they have failed to do their jobs over and over again.  Both Republicans and Democrats have failed to follow a clear appropriations process for decades.  I think the last time all required appropriations measures were passed on time was 1995 and it had been done only 3 times previous to that.  They wrote and made the 1974 Congressional Budget Act law and they can't even regularly function by it efficiently.

It's unacceptable that the gatekeepers of the nation's purse strings can't do their jobs.  What we get is a bunch of continuing resolutions and omnibus bills......and deadlines to keep the government open which ends up being held hostage by both sides depending on who is in power and what the nature of the political discourse of the day is.

Congress sucks at their job of funding the nation's business and has for decades.  This little pissing match is just like all of the other politicized antics tied to funding the nation's business.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
7,259 posts 46 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 9:16 AM
posted by Con_Alma

The outrage should be placed with the House of Representatives because they have failed to do their jobs over and over again.  Both Republicans and Democrats have failed to follow a clear appropriations process for decades.  I think the last time all required appropriations measures were passed on time was 1995 and it had been done only 3 times previous to that.  They wrote and made the 1974 Congressional Budget Act law and they can't even regularly function by it efficiently.

It's unacceptable that the gatekeepers of the nation's purse strings can't do their jobs.  What we get is a bunch of continuing resolutions and omnibus bills......and deadlines to keep the government open which ends up being held hostage by both sides depending on who is in power and what the nature of the political discourse of the day is.

Congress sucks at their job of funding the nation's business and has for decades.  This little pissing match is just like all of the other politicized antics tied to funding the nation's business.

IIRC somebody had posted a vid with a politician stating exactly this. He went on to say that the House habitually passes their jobs on to bureaucracy or lets a president use his executive power - thus not being caught holding the bag themselves. Can't remember the name of the guy, though. 

jmog Senior Member
7,737 posts 38 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 9:21 AM
posted by Con_Alma

The outrage should be placed with the House of Representatives because they have failed to do their jobs over and over again.  Both Republicans and Democrats have failed to follow a clear appropriations process for decades.  I think the last time all required appropriations measures were passed on time was 1995 and it had been done only 3 times previous to that.  They wrote and made the 1974 Congressional Budget Act law and they can't even regularly function by it efficiently.

It's unacceptable that the gatekeepers of the nation's purse strings can't do their jobs.  What we get is a bunch of continuing resolutions and omnibus bills......and deadlines to keep the government open which ends up being held hostage by both sides depending on who is in power and what the nature of the political discourse of the day is.

Congress sucks at their job of funding the nation's business and has for decades.  This little pissing match is just like all of the other politicized antics tied to funding the nation's business.

100% truth.

Spock Senior Member
5,271 posts 8 reps Joined Jul 2013
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 9:36 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Pelosi or Trump

Nice try.......here is where you make the difference....Trump won the electoral college....this means that the "Trump" voter is a pretty common American that is normalized in their opinion of how government should be represented.

 

Pelosi on the other hand isnt electable in any part of the country other than San Fran.  Could you imagine her running in Ohio with that type of platform? 

8,788 posts 21 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 9:59 AM
posted by Spock

Nice try.......here is where you make the difference....Trump won the electoral college....this means that the "Trump" voter is a pretty common American that is normalized in their opinion of how government should be represented.

 

Pelosi on the other hand isnt electable in any part of the country other than San Fran.  Could you imagine her running in Ohio with that type of platform? 

Flip side of that is the Ds won the House. So, they would counter that while Trump voter was common in 2016, the D House member was common in 2018. Also, while Trump won the electoral college, he lost the popular vote, and the Ds won the overall House elections by more than 5 Million votes last year. 

It is the same argument House Rs made in 2011 after their take over. 

Also, I'm sure most Ohio reps would not get elected in San Fran either. 

As I said, both sides see they are winning and see no reason on giving in. 

8,788 posts 21 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 10:01 AM
posted by Con_Alma

The outrage should be placed with the House of Representatives because they have failed to do their jobs over and over again.  Both Republicans and Democrats have failed to follow a clear appropriations process for decades.  I think the last time all required appropriations measures were passed on time was 1995 and it had been done only 3 times previous to that.  They wrote and made the 1974 Congressional Budget Act law and they can't even regularly function by it efficiently.

It's unacceptable that the gatekeepers of the nation's purse strings can't do their jobs.  What we get is a bunch of continuing resolutions and omnibus bills......and deadlines to keep the government open which ends up being held hostage by both sides depending on who is in power and what the nature of the political discourse of the day is.

Congress sucks at their job of funding the nation's business and has for decades.  This little pissing match is just like all of the other politicized antics tied to funding the nation's business.

This is very true and speaks to nature of the modern Congress. 

One could also make the argument that this is not about Trump. If the House and Senate could do their job, they could fund each of the departments outside the wall, and override a Trump veto. But, neither side of the House want that. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 312 reps Joined Apr 2010
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 10:08 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Pelosi or Trump

AOC, Maxine, King, Feinstein, etc...

This country has been electing fucking idiots for years, which is why I find it funny when people are shocked that Trump won the election.  It was bound to trickle to the white house. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 312 reps Joined Apr 2010
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 10:11 AM
posted by Con_Alma

The outrage should be placed with the House of Representatives because they have failed to do their jobs over and over again.  Both Republicans and Democrats have failed to follow a clear appropriations process for decades.  I think the last time all required appropriations measures were passed on time was 1995 and it had been done only 3 times previous to that.  They wrote and made the 1974 Congressional Budget Act law and they can't even regularly function by it efficiently.

It's unacceptable that the gatekeepers of the nation's purse strings can't do their jobs.  What we get is a bunch of continuing resolutions and omnibus bills......and deadlines to keep the government open which ends up being held hostage by both sides depending on who is in power and what the nature of the political discourse of the day is.

Congress sucks at their job of funding the nation's business and has for decades.  This little pissing match is just like all of the other politicized antics tied to funding the nation's business.

Best post here.  I would love to see an constiutional amendment that requires congress to balance the budget and if they don't pass a proper appropriations bill by the end of the fiscal year, it automatically kicks in. 

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
8,068 posts 111 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 10:35 AM
posted by like_that

Best post here.  I would love to see an constiutional amendment that requires congress to balance the budget and if they don't pass a proper appropriations bill by the end of the fiscal year, it automatically kicks in. 

I'd be OK with Senator Paul's bill.

 

https://www.paul.senate.gov/news/dr-rand-paul-reintroduces-bill-prevent-government-shutdowns

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 312 reps Joined Apr 2010
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 10:40 AM
posted by queencitybuckeye

I'd be OK with Senator Paul's bill.

 

https://www.paul.senate.gov/news/dr-rand-paul-reintroduces-bill-prevent-government-shutdowns

Me too.  We both know this will get nowhere. 

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 24 reps Joined Oct 2010
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 10:50 AM
posted by Spock

Nice try.......here is where you make the difference....Trump won the electoral college....this means that the "Trump" voter is a pretty common American that is normalized in their opinion of how government should be represented.

 

Pelosi on the other hand isnt electable in any part of the country other than San Fran.  Could you imagine her running in Ohio with that type of platform? 

You said "could you imagine pulling the lever for Pelosi".  I replied "Pelosi or Trump" because they are the two involved in this topic and I can't imagine pulling the lever for either one.  

Heretic Son of the Sun
20,517 posts 190 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 1:32 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Found the TDS!

If you're reaching so far to call someone poking fun at Trump's strange ways of typing messages "TDS", then you're doing a great job of ensuring that term has no actual meaning or relevance. Congrats!

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
7,259 posts 46 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 3:27 PM
posted by Heretic

If you're reaching so far to call someone poking fun at Trump's strange ways of typing messages "TDS", then you're doing a great job of ensuring that term has no actual meaning or relevance. Congrats!

Child please (I forget which player said this all the time)! I was teasing him and he got it, laughed. That's all. 

geeblock Member
1,123 posts 0 reps Joined May 2018
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 4:42 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Child please (I forget which player said this all the time)! I was teasing him and he got it, laughed. That's all. 

Ochocinco 

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
8,068 posts 111 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 18, 2019 4:49 PM
posted by like_that

Me too.  We both know this will get nowhere. 

Of course not, it would be dangerously close to responsible governing.

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