Net Neutrality

gut Senior Member
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Tue, Dec 19, 2017 5:18 PM

https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/19/net-neutrality-bill-ban-blocking-throttling/

"Proposed net neutrality bill would ban blocking and throttling.  But that's pretty much the only difference between it and the FCC's order."

 

LMFAO.  That's like 95% of what people have been crying about and blaming the demise of the internet on.  "Useless idiot" is no longer sufficient to describe these people....I'm going with "big gubmit cuckold".

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Wed, Feb 21, 2018 8:10 AM

 

Checking in to see if you all have survived repeal of NN?  

Elon is making moves on the internet game https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/02/20/test-satellites-for-spacexs-broadband-megaconstellation-set-for-launch/.  With this, google fiber slowly expanding (it would be quicker without bureaucratic meddling), and the 5G we will have many more options in the future.

BTW, in DC of all places the competition has been great.  We have a few ISPs (one smallish business, comcast, verizon, and i believe a satellite company option) and they all have lowered their prices since NN repeal.  I currently use comcast, and verizon has been trying to get me to switch over for years.  Previously their internet (i just stream) was $65/month for 25 mbps.   Now they are offering people 100 mbps internet for  $33.99/month AND a year subscription to Netflix.   I stand by my original argument in this thread.  If you live in an area that has limited options don't cry for NN.  Instead tell your local politicians to quit trying to "protect" you by making back door deals with ISPs and cable companies that make it difficult for other companies to penetrate the market.  

Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Wed, May 16, 2018 4:42 PM

Saved for now

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Wed, May 16, 2018 4:47 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

Saved for now

I would be surprised if the house passes it.

24,621 posts 244 reps Joined May 2010
Wed, May 16, 2018 5:50 PM

Net Neutrality doesn't end under the current rules and regulations until June 11th, so while amusing the cartoon is extreme hyperbole.

posted by like_that

 

Checking in to see if you all have survived repeal of NN? 

24,621 posts 244 reps Joined May 2010
Wed, May 16, 2018 5:52 PM
posted by like_that

I would be surprised if the house passes it.

I would be as well, though I haven't read projections/Number Crunching. It has EXTREME public favorability though, last thing I read on NTY was in the high 70%s. Hard to make a rational argument for not passing it.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Wed, May 16, 2018 6:03 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

I would be as well, though I haven't read projections/Number Crunching. It has EXTREME public favorability though, last thing I read on NTY was in the high 70%s. Hard to make a rational argument for not passing it.

Plenty of rational arguments for not passing it.  I hope they don't. 

 

Regardless if it passes or not, at least it is being done the right way.

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 114 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jun 15, 2018 3:51 PM

LMFAO, can't make this shit up.  NN just more fake hysteria from the left.  Meanwhile, none of them seem to understand or be concerned with mega-mergers of providers and content owners (i.e. Time Warner, 21st Century Fox, etc).

https://www.engadget.com/2018/06/15/comcast-no-longer-throttling-heavy-users-speed/

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Jun 15, 2018 7:23 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

Net Neutrality doesn't end under the current rules and regulations until June 11th, so while amusing the cartoon is extreme hyperbole.

Hand up, I realized that after the fact (probably a few weeks after I posted it), but it was 4 months ago and it never crossed my mind to find this thread and correct it.  

A few days after the actual NN repeal I stand by that cartoon though.  

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Jun 15, 2018 7:32 PM
posted by gut

LMFAO, can't make this shit up.  NN just more fake hysteria from the left.  Meanwhile, none of them seem to understand or be concerned with mega-mergers of providers and content owners (i.e. Time Warner, 21st Century Fox, etc).

https://www.engadget.com/2018/06/15/comcast-no-longer-throttling-heavy-users-speed/

You mean with corporate tax cuts + repealing a law that disincentivizes businesses to invest in improving technology = Comcast improving their technology?

 

Crazy concept.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Dec 14, 2018 2:25 PM

Today is the one year anniversary since the FCC voted to repeal NN (yes I know it went into effect in June).  As predicted, the end of the internet is nowhere near and all of these people who were supposed to die are still alive.  In fact broadband investment increased for the first time since NN and internet speeds in the US went from being ranked 12th in the world to 6th.  I even see ISPs providing incentives such as free prime membership for a year if you sign a contract with them.  The hysteria over NN repeal is/was laughable at best. With 5G  coming soon it will be even more laughable.  

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 114 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Dec 14, 2018 3:48 PM
posted by like_that

The hysteria over NN repeal is/was laughable at best. With 5G  coming soon it will be even more laughable.  

I was reading on another board, and people were up in arms over Trump repealing Obama-era regulations on small waterways....basically Trump was making it "ok" to pollute water!  

Then it was pointed out that the law was passed in 2015...so back to the dirty, polluted water of 2014.  But actually the law hadn't even gone into effect, yet....so back to the dirty, polluted water we already had.  And, finally, the Trump EPA is re-writing the rule to give more power and control of the issue to the states.  The HO-RR-OR!!!

Nothing like a little fake news to provide the daily fix for outrage!

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Tue, Dec 18, 2018 2:08 PM

Funny how we don't realize the problems we don't have until someone gets us frothed up into believing we have them.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Dec 19, 2018 9:06 AM

Since Net Neutrality was repealed my speeds have gone up and costs have gone down. So, you know, the horror...

(Anecdotal, I know)

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Wed, Dec 19, 2018 11:24 AM
posted by justincredible

Since Net Neutrality was repealed my speeds have gone up and costs have gone down. So, you know, the horror...

(Anecdotal, I know)

Your story might be anectodal, but US speeds have gone up nearly 40%.  That is a fact.  Broadband investment has increased for the first time since NN.  That is also a fact.  

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Dec 19, 2018 12:16 PM
posted by like_that

Your story might be anectodal, but US speeds have gone up nearly 40%.  That is a fact.  Broadband investment has increased for the first time since NN.  That is also a fact.  

Yeah, but how many had to die? Was it worth it?

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Fri, May 31, 2019 1:50 AM

Figured this was the best place to post this bit of info, but I met Ajit Pai tonight. Nice guy.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, May 31, 2019 6:05 AM
posted by justincredible

Figured this was the best place to post this bit of info, but I met Ajit Pai tonight. Nice guy.

And you didn't die?

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 114 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, May 31, 2019 8:25 AM
posted by like_that

And you didn't die?

Probably just absorbed his soul.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Wed, Dec 18, 2019 2:34 AM

Two years since the NN repeal vote and all the dumbass doomsday predictions regarding the internet have not come to fruition.  There were some very laughable predictions too (oMg, tWitTer is GoiNg tO cHarGe yOu pEr TwEEt!!!).

 

 Instead, internet has sped up, more people have access to internet, companies are investing more into their broadband, and in a lot of cases the cost shrunk. Imagine if state/local governments stayed the fuck out and allowed businesses to compete.  You would probably find several towns with FREE internet.  Hopefully the government stays the fuck away from over regulating 5G too.
 

I never understood the argument that NN repeal would give big corporations control of our internet, while big corporations (i.e. Amazon) advocated for NN.  That should have been an immediate red flag on that argument. 

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