Impressed by the Trump administration part II

superman Senior Member
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Fri, May 25, 2018 2:26 PM
posted by O-Trap

That's a negative response to the cancellation.  My statement was that all I'd seen was "negative response to the cancellation of peace talks."  You had said that the lefties were "celebrating" the breakdown of peace talks, not lamenting them.

 

Look at the responses from the usual suspects in this thread.  Celebrating.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, May 25, 2018 2:27 PM

They were, at least the one I saw.

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Fri, May 25, 2018 2:30 PM
posted by superman

Look at the responses from the usual suspects in this thread.  Celebrating.

If one celebrates it, then one thinks it is good.  If one thinks it is good, then one is agreeing with Trump's decision to do it.

If one laments it, then one thinks it is bad.  If one thinks it is bad, then one is disagreeing with Trump's decision to do it.

I'm a little concerned that the above needs articulated.

So, were they celebrating the decision to pull out of the summit, or were they disagreeing with Trump's decision to do so?  They're quite literally mutually exclusive.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, May 25, 2018 2:57 PM

They appeared to be happy as, in their minds, it represented another Trump  perceived misstep.  

 

 

MSNBC reporter Stephanie Ruhle who speaking to MSNBC’s Peter Alexander exclaimed, “Peter, this is a huge a wow for us.”

 

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, May 25, 2018 3:35 PM
posted by QuakerOats

They appeared to be happy as, in their minds, it represented another Trump  perceived misstep.  

 

 

MSNBC reporter Stephanie Ruhle who speaking to MSNBC’s Peter Alexander exclaimed, “Peter, this is a huge a wow for us.”

 

Why in the world are you watching  MSNBC?  Since you already know it to be a left wing news source, is it safe to assume you watch it only to get yourself all worked up?

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, May 25, 2018 4:05 PM

I don't watch it; I saw a clip of it elsewhere.  I rarely watch any of them; I just read. 

superman Senior Member
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Fri, May 25, 2018 4:15 PM
posted by O-Trap

If one celebrates it, then one thinks it is good.  If one thinks it is good, then one is agreeing with Trump's decision to do it.

If one laments it, then one thinks it is bad.  If one thinks it is bad, then one is disagreeing with Trump's decision to do it.

I'm a little concerned that the above needs articulated.

So, were they celebrating the decision to pull out of the summit, or were they disagreeing with Trump's decision to do so?  They're quite literally mutually exclusive.

They are celebrating what they perceive to be a Trump "failure." Literally celebrating the failure of peace talks.  

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Fri, May 25, 2018 6:51 PM

Elon Musk: My twitter feed showed nothing but contempt from media towards Elon Musk. They were on full attack mode.I don't think his plan is to be friends with the media.

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Fri, May 25, 2018 11:29 PM
posted by QuakerOats

They appeared to be happy as, in their minds, it represented another Trump  perceived misstep.

posted by superman

They are celebrating what they perceive to be a Trump "failure." Literally celebrating the failure of peace talks.  

Make no mistake, I'm a firm believer in the existence of blind partisanship in the DNC, so it wouldn't surprise me if this was the sentiment of plenty.

However, there are those actually celebrating it that way?  "Woohoo!  He cancelled the peace summit, which will be huge for us!"

 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Sat, May 26, 2018 8:58 AM
posted by O-Trap
posted by superman

They are celebrating what they perceive to be a Trump "failure." Literally celebrating the failure of peace talks.  

Make no mistake, I'm a firm believer in the existence of blind partisanship in the DNC, so it wouldn't surprise me if this was the sentiment of plenty.

However, there are those actually celebrating it that way?  "Woohoo!  He cancelled the peace summit, which will be huge for us!"

 

You are really over analyzing one post and actually one word in particular.  I think people coming out of hiding (for this particular topic) dancing on Trump's grave to mock him for "failing" peace talks counts as "celebrating."  Whatever you want to label it, most can agree it is pathetic.

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Sat, May 26, 2018 4:02 PM
posted by like_that

You are really over analyzing one post and actually one word in particular.  I think people coming out of hiding (for this particular topic) dancing on Trump's grave to mock him for "failing" peace talks counts as "celebrating."  Whatever you want to label it, most can agree it is pathetic.

I wasn't really trying to analyze it.  It's gotten a bit bigger than I anticipated.  The initial statement that Dems were "celebrating" the cancellation of the peace summit just seemed odd, as all I'd seen was complaining about his [insert negative character trait here] as manifested in his canceling the summit.  It all sounds like complaining, which doesn't sound equitable to celebration no matter how much or how little analysis you do.

gut Senior Member
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Sat, May 26, 2018 4:17 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Elon Musk: My twitter feed showed nothing but contempt from media towards Elon Musk. They were on full attack mode.I don't think his plan is to be friends with the media.

Ehhhh, I thought he was talking specifically about Trump (and he has TDS in a major way) when he made the announcement.  Like I said, I really think it will end-up being another case of the left labeling objective and truthful that which they agree with, and calling what they disagree with lies an bullshit.

You know the one singular thing the left is most pissed at Trump about is the fact he stole their "fake news" tag and made it his own.  They - CNN especially - can't handle the fact Trump is winning the "fake news" war.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Mon, May 28, 2018 11:17 AM

Speaking of fake news, did anyone see the media get completely owned on Sunday? Media and other regressives were retweeting a picture of illegal immigrant children in a pen as if it were Trumps fault, only to find out it was in 2014. Weird they didn’t remember, but they probably didn’t report on it bc of savior Obama.

It gets more clear everyday that journalists failed us all during the Obama years and I don’t think any reasonably intelligent person can argue otherwise. 

gut Senior Member
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Mon, May 28, 2018 1:47 PM
posted by iclfan2

It gets more clear everyday that journalists failed us all during the Obama years and I don’t think any reasonably intelligent person can argue otherwise. 

I remember CNN being pretty decent, but then at some point they became unapologetic cheerleaders for Obama and Hillary.

I think the 2008 wave election convinced liberals Republicans were dead....and those in the media stopped pretending to be objective or non-partisan because it no longer mattered.   Ironically enough, Obama and Hillary may have actually done more damage to the Democrats than to Repubs.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Mon, May 28, 2018 3:48 PM

CNN has basically devolved to the point that they only report on their truth, not the truth. Same with CBS, NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, NYT, HuffPo. Of course, same can be said of Breitbart and FOX. But it is obvious that "truth" is now entirely subjective in the mainstream media (which we all know leans left by a vast majority).

I've been into The Knife Media lately. It's pretty much right down the middle without the unnecessary use of adjectives, slants and obvious biases - and critiqueing/rating how mainstream media almost always uses these tricks to sway and gather the herd.

gut Senior Member
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Mon, May 28, 2018 5:16 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

CNN has basically devolved to the point that they only report on their truth, not the truth..

When Trump got elected, the one thing I was looking forward to was liberal heads exploding on a daily basis....and I've not been disappointed!

But the whole "fake news" thing really disgusts me in that it was ok when Obama singled out Fox, not just ok but a lot in the mainstream media cheered it and loved it.  Then when Trump turns around and does the same thing to CNN (granted, in his own over-the-top way), liberals lose their shit and suddenly Trump is destroying Democracy and freedom.

Spock Senior Member
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Mon, May 28, 2018 9:17 PM

Until someone infiltrates the major media market with fair and unbiased reporting....these new outlets will only get worse

gut Senior Member
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Mon, May 28, 2018 9:59 PM
posted by Spock

Until someone infiltrates the major media market with fair and unbiased reporting....these new outlets will only get worse

I thought I saw where someone is launching a cable news channel that will be right of Fox (basically the right-wing version of MSNBC, as Fox really is the mirror of CNN or what CNN used to be before it tried to go left of MSNBC).

That will be interesting because presumably it will steal a lot of Fox's audience, and will probably knock Fox down easily to 2nd or 3rd place.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 1, 2018 2:52 PM

June 12 summit back on .....no doubt the media is pissed as Trump may pull off another big win. 

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Jun 1, 2018 2:59 PM
posted by QuakerOats

June 12 summit back on .....no doubt the media is pissed as Trump may pull off another big win. 

just go back to how the media talked/viewed the Iran deal (only flip the responses)

But it is funny - I think reactions to the tax cuts showed you the depths of stupidity Dems and the liberal media are capable of sinking to with anything Trump.  At some point I'd have to consider the possibility that Trump renders his opponents incapable of rational thought is not unintentional.

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