Impressed by the Trump administration part II

Spock Senior Member
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Thu, Feb 27, 2020 8:44 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

When the market is up, it's because Trump did a great job that day. When it's down, sinister forces within the Democratic party are responsible. Don't you understand that?

 

Or it's because of the Big Bad Media. 

Trump surely isnt responsible for the acute downturn.  It will correct itself back to something close to where it was in a few weeks when the media stops fearmongering about 1 person being sick

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Thu, Feb 27, 2020 8:59 PM
posted by Spock

Trump surely isnt responsible for the acute downturn.  It will correct itself back to something close to where it was in a few weeks when the media stops fearmongering about 1 person being sick

So there it is - the Big Bad Media is responsible.  

Automatik Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 8:26 AM

1 person. 
 

His poor students. 😞

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 10:47 AM
posted by Spock

Read a little so you understand that the act of or expression of something in many forms can be characterized as "virtue signaling".

 

Virtue signaling rose in popularity as a pejorative term, denouncing empty acts of public commitment to unexceptional good causes. The term is characterized by the signaler's desire to show support for a cause without actually acting to support the cause in question. An important characteristic of virtue signaling is that there is little to no cost associated with the act; simple public vocalization in support of a cause has no cost to the signaler. In Bartholomew's original article, he describes virtue signaling as a public act with very little associated cost that is intended to inform others of one's socially acceptable alignment on an issue.[3] Geoffrey Miller describes virtue signaling as an innate act, and something that all humans do and cannot avoid.[12]

Okay, take the above definition ... the one you, yourself, just quoted ... and apply that here.  What is anyone supporting?  Feel free to use big-boy words if it helps.
 

posted by Automatik

1 person. 
 

His poor students. 😞

Isn't it like 50-something?  I mean, nobody in the US has died from it last I checked, but I had thought I'd heard the number was in the 50s, with all but 12 having been to China somewhat recently.
 

 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 10:50 AM
posted by O-Trap

For the record, we know what happened shortly after July 2007.

 

 

These are home sales, in units, which is obviously different from home values and lenders/creditors being under water as in ’07.  And of course, your BIG government moved in with more regulations to prevent such a collapse from happening remember?  LOL

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 10:52 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

When the market is up, it's because Trump did a great job that day. When it's down, sinister forces within the Democratic party are responsible. Don't you understand that?

 

Or it's because of the Big Bad Media. 

 

 

 

Despite the sell-off, which has absolutely nothing to do with Trump’s ability to help set the table for economic growth and revitalization, the market is still up nearly 40% since his election.  Me thinks some people on a certain side of the spectrum will use current situation as just another way to try and bring him down.

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 11:01 AM
posted by QuakerOats

 

 

These are home sales, in units, which is obviously different from home values and lenders/creditors being under water as in ’07.  And of course, your BIG government moved in with more regulations to prevent such a collapse from happening remember?  LOL

I know these are home sales, but part of the problem last time was that sub-prime mortgages were being handed out like bulletins at church.  People were buying houses left and right.  They just couldn't afford them, but they were getting approved anyway, in no small part because of the early '90s additions to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that allowed them to buy sub-prime mortgages (thanks for that, Barney Frank), which then prompted more sub-prime mortgages to be written.

And MY big government?

First, government is largely what caused the problems in '08.

Second, my point was that people buying homes is not a good economic indicator, because the housing market crash was preceded ... even contributed to ... by too much home buying.

Third ... c'mon, man.  I've outed myself as an AnCap numerous times.  YOUR version of government is exponentially larger than mine.

 

Spock Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 11:07 AM
posted by O-Trap

Okay, take the above definition ... the one you, yourself, just quoted ... and apply that here.  What is anyone supporting?  Feel free to use big-boy words if it helps.
 

posted by Automatik

1 person. 
 

His poor students. 😞

Isn't it like 50-something?  I mean, nobody in the US has died from it last I checked, but I had thought I'd heard the number was in the 50s, with all but 12 having been to China somewhat recently.
 

 

You do know that all the cases were brought home and did not originate here.  Only 1 has

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 11:07 AM
posted by QuakerOats

 

 

 

Despite the sell-off, which has absolutely nothing to do with Trump’s ability to help set the table for economic growth and revitalization, the market is still up nearly 40% since his election.  Me thinks some people on a certain side of the spectrum will use current situation as just another way to try and bring him down.

The question you never answer:

 

Yes the market is up during Trump's time in office.  But he Dow went up 150% during Obama's terms.  The president is certainly a factor in the market, but one of many and it is arguable how much they have a near-term effect.  But since you always suggest market improvements are attributable to Trump, why wasn't Obama credited for the large market increase during his presidency?  

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 11:08 AM
posted by QuakerOats

 

 

These are home sales, in units, which is obviously different from home values and lenders/creditors being under water as in ’07.  And of course, your BIG government moved in with more regulations to prevent such a collapse from happening remember?  LOL

If he's responsible for increases, why doesn't he get the blame for sell-offs?

Spock Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 11:11 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

If he's responsible for increases, why doesn't he get the blame for sell-offs?

Because its obvious that the selloff and the thousands of points its down is obviously an outside influence.  This is uncharted territory for the economy.  

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 11:14 AM
posted by Spock

Because its obvious that the selloff and the thousands of points its down is obviously an outside influence.  This is uncharted territory for the economy.  

But but but it's Trump's fault, and the country is unprepared for this because of Trump!

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 11:38 AM
posted by Spock

Because its obvious that the selloff and the thousands of points its down is obviously an outside influence.  This is uncharted territory for the economy.  

If it's great it's me, if it sucks it someone else - that is kindergarten playground logic.  

Every day in history is uncharted territory for the economy.  That's called human progress.  

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 12:03 PM
posted by Spock

You do know that all the cases were brought home and did not originate here.  Only 1 has

You appear to have stopped reading before the end.  Here, I'll help you:

"Isn't it like 50-something?  I mean, nobody in the US has died from it last I checked, but I had thought I'd heard the number was in the 50s, with all but 12 having been to China somewhat recently."

So, I looked it up.  As of less than a day ago, there were 60 known cases, 42 of which were from the Diamond Princess cruise ship (what I was referencing ... inaccurately, if I'm being fair ... by the "all but 12" statement).  Technically, it's not even necessarily one that has originated here.  The CDC is saying (as of six hours ago, in fairness) that that one case is of "unknown origin."

 

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 1:14 PM
posted by O-Trap

I know these are home sales, but part of the problem last time was that sub-prime mortgages were being handed out like bulletins at church.  People were buying houses left and right.  They just couldn't afford them, but they were getting approved anyway, in no small part because of the early '90s additions to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that allowed them to buy sub-prime mortgages (thanks for that, Barney Frank), which then prompted more sub-prime mortgages to be written.

And MY big government?

First, government is largely what caused the problems in '08.

Second, my point was that people buying homes is not a good economic indicator, because the housing market crash was preceded ... even contributed to ... by too much home buying.

Third ... c'mon, man.  I've outed myself as an AnCap numerous times.  YOUR version of government is exponentially larger than mine.

 

I'm loving Quaker using "YOUR big government" as if he actually believes his Republican government isn't just as large as any other version of our government, with the only real difference being what stuff we're throwing away ungodly amounts of $$$ at with no care about anything other than how it's "their side" holding the purse-strings.

Add in CC still being both hilariously whiny (one could say a SNOWFLAKE) over the MAGA hat being mentioned in describing an asshole and a complete idiot concerning the whole coronavirus deal, over-simplifying things to "one American getting it from unknown sources is the reason the stocks are down because fearmongering". I mean, by now, I should NEVER be surprised by his stupidity, but I still am.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Feb 28, 2020 3:27 PM
posted by Heretic

I'm loving Quaker using "YOUR big government" as if he actually believes his Republican government isn't just as large as any other version of our government, with the only real difference being what stuff we're throwing away ungodly amounts of $$$ at with no care about anything other than how it's "their side" holding the purse-strings.

 

 

I know Otrap is not a fan of BIG government, I was razzing him a bit.

 

Fun reactions as usual.

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Sat, Feb 29, 2020 1:50 AM
posted by QuakerOats

 

 

I know Otrap is not a fan of BIG government, I was razzing him a bit.

 

Fun reactions as usual.

That was some delicate humor.  A little hard to pick up in typed text.

However, glad to know, all the same.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, Mar 3, 2020 4:28 PM

 

US posts higher construction spending for Jan.

Construction spending climbed 1.8% in January to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of $1.37 trillion, a record high, according to the Commerce Department. Spending on single-family home construction increased 2.7%, while nonresidential construction had a 0.8% gain.

Full Story: The Associated Press (3/2) 

 

 

 

 

 

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BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Mar 3, 2020 8:14 PM

Interesting....rumors floating around that Trump may move Pence to a different/lateral role (Secretary of Defense) and promote Nikki Haley to VP for the coming election.

Spock Senior Member
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Tue, Mar 3, 2020 9:20 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Interesting....rumors floating around that Trump may move Pence to a different/lateral role (Secretary of Defense) and promote Nikki Haley to VP for the coming election.

Dems gonna put up a women with the old white guy for sure

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